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[The Brain]

If you have a point to make, feel free to do so.

Seems to me that if it had been a blind curve it is reasonably likely it would have been mentioned, and considering that people lose focus all the time in traffic it seems reasonably likely that the guy simply wasn't paying attention. His speed also indicates to me that he likely wan't going through a blind curve at the time (but of course it's possible that he was so distracted that he didn't notice the curve).

[DGuller]

I'd consider it absurdly dangerous to stay in a broken down car on the highway. Even if broken down on the shoulder, I'd want to get out of the car because of the chance of a car crashing into it is too high (I almost experienced this as a kid).

Interesting.  In that situation, I'd rather stay in the car, because I figure I'll be more vulnerable outside of it.  Having a car at full speed crash into a stationary car may look sudden and shocking, but it's actually not that dangerous compared to a head-on, especially to the car being hit.  If some car is going to read-end my car, then a couple of cars are going to fly somewhere, and I may be in their path completely exposed.

[The Brain]

I'd consider it absurdly dangerous to stay in a broken down car on the highway. Even if broken down on the shoulder, I'd want to get out of the car because of the chance of a car crashing into it is too high (I almost experienced this as a kid).

Interesting.  In that situation, I'd rather stay in the car, because I figure I'll be more vulnerable outside of it.  Having a car at full speed crash into a stationary car may look sudden and shocking, but it's actually not that dangerous compared to a head-on, especially to the car being hit.  If some car is going to read-end my car, then a couple of cars are going to fly somewhere, and I may be in their path completely exposed.

I don't think you have to expose yourself every time you get out of the car.

[Eddie Teach]

It's New Jersey custom.

[alfred russel]

A lot depends on how busy the highway is. On the highway through here, there is very heavy traffic. A woman at my old company was driving one day and someone stopped on the road to pick up a ladder that was dropped. She hit him and almost died. No one blamed her, because there is enough traffic to focus on that something as unexpected as a stopped car in the road is probably not going to register immediately (and other traffic blocks you view anyway).

If I go and park my car in the highway right now for no good reason right now, there is a high probability someone is going hit it. The speeds make a fatality very possible. Why shouldn't I get in a shitload of trouble for that? It is probably a lot more objectively dangerous than driving home after having 3-4 beers, and if someone gets killed after that I'm going to be in a lot of trouble.

[DGuller]

I don't think you have to expose yourself every time you get out of the car.

You're right, you don't have to.

[The Brain]

I don't think you have to expose yourself every time you get out of the car.

You're right, you don't have to.

Land of the free.

[alfred russel]

Interesting.  In that situation, I'd rather stay in the car, because I figure I'll be more vulnerable outside of it.  Having a car at full speed crash into a stationary car may look sudden and shocking, but it's actually not that dangerous compared to a head-on, especially to the car being hit.  If some car is going to read-end my car, then a couple of cars are going to fly somewhere, and I may be in their path completely exposed.

I think this is completely wrong. Get out of the car, and stand well off the road (and obviously not in front of the car).

[alfred russel]

To illustrate the point to DGuller:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McZHJ9-jYi8

[The Brain]

To illustrate the point to DGuller:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McZHJ9-jYi8

that cop is a aryan

[Eddie Teach]

I don't see race. At least, not when the video quality is that low. They both look greenish grey.

[Razgovory]

Either Canadian law is screwy or the story is not right.  The back end of a car is sacrosanct.  You are supposed to keep a decent distance from the car ahead of you in case they have make an emergency stop or something.  If you run into the back of someone else's car you are almost always in the wrong.  Last month I had to hit the breaks in my neighborhood to avoid hitting a kid.  Goofy kid runs out in front of the car and I slam on the breaks.  Nearly gave me a heart attack.

[DGuller]

To illustrate the point to DGuller:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McZHJ9-jYi8

What exactly does that illustrate?  Yes, if you are going to get out of your car, you need to really be away from it, and definitely not stay between two  stopped cars.  So what?

If anything, this shows you how much more vulnerable you are out of the car that you need to pick your spot carefully.  Her car was a mess after it was hit, but it was the back of her car.  She would be risking a whiplash at worst staying in her car, whereas out of the car she could've been seriously hurt if the crash happened 10 seconds before.

[Ideologue]

If there was some sort of weather, it may obstruct the views.

Well, I'm sure there was some kind of weather.

[Admiral Yi]

Seems to me that if it had been a blind curve it is reasonably likely it would have been mentioned, and considering that people lose focus all the time in traffic it seems reasonably likely that the guy simply wasn't paying attention. His speed also indicates to me that he likely wan't going through a blind curve at the time (but of course it's possible that he was so distracted that he didn't notice the curve).

They didn't mention it was a straightaway either, which would have been as natural to mention as a blind curve.

We know he was on a motorcycle, with his 16 year old daughter as a passenger, and that he hit a car in the other lane.  Those factors all suggest he wasn't the most cautious driver.