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Started by The Brain, June 22, 2014, 07:41:09 AM

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Liep

If he was going into a blind curve with 119km/h with his kid on the bike he's a massive arse speeding or not. But yes, the woman was a moron, and morons shouldn't be allowed to drive. Also, I feel it's completely fair that she should live with their lives on her conscience. But lifetime imprisonment for being dumb and careless?
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viper37

Quote from: Ideologue on June 22, 2014, 09:11:27 AM
Query: Why would a road with true blind curves have a 55mph speed limit, anyway?
It's a 60mph speed limit, not 55mph.  We need blind spots so that cops can hide and tax us for speeding.
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grumbler

Quote from: Ideologue on June 22, 2014, 09:11:27 AM
Query: Why would a road with true blind curves have a 55mph speed limit, anyway?
According to other accounts I have read, this wasn't on a curve at all.  After all, the woman saw the ducks in plenty of time to stop, and there was a car that swerved to miss her before the motorcycle hit her (which was about a minute after she stopped).

The motorcyclist was only able to shed about 10 mph from his speed before impact, so doesn't seem to have been paying attention.  His wife, who was riding another bike with him, had no trouble avoiding the stopped car.
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viper37

Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2014, 09:46:48 AM
If he was going into a blind curve with 119km/h with his kid on the bike he's a massive arse speeding or not. But yes, the woman was a moron, and morons shouldn't be allowed to drive. Also, I feel it's completely fair that she should live with their lives on her conscience. But lifetime imprisonment for being dumb and careless?
It's kind the normal thing to do, driving 119 km/h on the highway.  It most likely wasn't a true blind curve, but I don't know the exact spot where this happenned.
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DGuller

Quote from: grumbler on June 22, 2014, 07:58:03 AM
However, this is in Canada (and Quebec, no less), so fucked-upedness should be expected, I suppose.
I think Quebec is the keyword.  Whenever I hear of some fucked up story out of Canada, it's always Quebec.  As much as we like to mock Canadians, apart from their paltry mortgage options and dubious tastes in Olympic sports, their society seems to be relatively free of outrageous dysfunction.

viper37

Quote from: grumbler on June 22, 2014, 09:50:32 AM
The motorcyclist was only able to shed about 10 mph from his speed before impact, so doesn't seem to have been paying attention.  His wife, who was riding another bike with him, had no trouble avoiding the stopped car.
she was farther behind.
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Liep

Quote from: viper37 on June 22, 2014, 09:51:22 AM
Quote from: grumbler on June 22, 2014, 09:50:32 AM
The motorcyclist was only able to shed about 10 mph from his speed before impact, so doesn't seem to have been paying attention.  His wife, who was riding another bike with him, had no trouble avoiding the stopped car.
she was farther behind.

That shouldn't matter if it was a blind curve. I can sort of forgive the man if he hadn't paid attention to a vehicle in front of him if he had judged the distance to be significant. But at 119km/h a stationary object just closes in extremely quick.

I hadn't read that it was a highway (our speed limit there is 130km/h), but if that's the case then it's extremely stupid to stop in the left lane.
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DGuller

Quote from: Ed Anger on June 22, 2014, 09:24:19 AM
Ducks. The greatest evil in the world. They travel in packs and shit everywhere.

And they don't wear pants.
We have plenty of ducks on Jersey City waterfront as well.  They constantly jaywalk in long packs and cause the entire four-lane road to stop for them, and they thoroughly shit every square foot of the sidewalk (though you'll have to know what to look for to see it).

Admiral Yi

Quote from: viper37 on June 22, 2014, 09:44:01 AM
it is highly unexpected for a car to be stopped on the left lane.  It is also illegal to stop on the left lane.

It's also completely irrelevant for someone driving legally in the right lane.

(Unless the dude  on the motorcyle whacked her car while passing on a blind curve.  :wacko:)

The Brain

Where does this idea come from that it was a curve? Non-rhetorical.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Brain on June 22, 2014, 10:02:57 AM
Where does this idea come from that it was a curve? Non-rhetorical.

I'm inferring it.  If you're on a 3 mile straightaway you can usually see a parked car in time.

The Brain

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 10:05:04 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 22, 2014, 10:02:57 AM
Where does this idea come from that it was a curve? Non-rhetorical.

I'm inferring it.  If you're on a 3 mile straightaway you can usually see a parked car in time.

And you usually don't park there. And yet here we are.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 09:59:50 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 22, 2014, 09:44:01 AM
it is highly unexpected for a car to be stopped on the left lane.  It is also illegal to stop on the left lane.

It's also completely irrelevant for someone driving legally in the right lane.

(Unless the dude  on the motorcyle whacked her car while passing on a blind curve.  :wacko:)

I don't know without more circumstances.

If the road is heavily used, faster traffic tends to stay in the left lane and slower in the right. Plus if it is heavily used, drivers tend to focus on the traffic around them (or may have a view obstructed by the car in front of them). If there was some sort of weather, it may obstruct the views.

I'd consider it absurdly dangerous to stay in a broken down car on the highway. Even if broken down on the shoulder, I'd want to get out of the car because of the chance of a car crashing into it is too high (I almost experienced this as a kid).
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DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 22, 2014, 10:05:04 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 22, 2014, 10:02:57 AM
Where does this idea come from that it was a curve? Non-rhetorical.

I'm inferring it.  If you're on a 3 mile straightaway you can usually see a parked car in time.
Have you ever been in a situation where you're driving along a perfectly straight road, get distracted for just a second, and when you look up again after pressing the "send" button, you're somewhere completely different?