The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant Megathread

[Razgovory]

I read that the US has admitted to killing a high up Hezbollah guy back in 2008.

Mughniyah?  Yeah, that fucking piece of shit had run up quite the tab over the years, and it was time to collect on his ass.  I'm glad the CIA was involved in twisting that motherfucker's cap back.

In the Washington Post (which I get free on my Kindle!), it was some weird collaboration with the Israelis.  We designed the bomb, and our spotter made the call, but the trigger was pulled by the Mossad, in Tel Aviv.  God only knows why they had such a complicated setup.  I agree the its good that they killed this fucker.

[alfred russel]

Yeah, without any specific insight I'd guess that to the degree Turkey doesn't mind the ISIS, it's down to the ISIS messing with groups and people Turkey likes even less.

There is also a strong jihadi element in parts of Turkey, previously they were very present in Chechnya, now Syria.

Kobane looks like maybe the Stalingrad of the Kurds.

ISIS is the enemy of the Kurds and Assad, so I guess Turkey likes that. But still, who wants ISIS lunatics on your border? Plus them kicking up trouble in Syria and Iraq contributes to instability and a refugee crisis on the Turkish side of the border.

[Monoriu]

I wonder why westerners and Japanese are still going there.  Why did they go there in the first place?

[Jacob]

Whatever happened to traditional beheadings in which you actually cut the guy's head off to kill them. Most of these people are having their throats slit and then they just hack/saw the head off the already dead body. Middle Ages Euro rulers would be shocked at their incompetence in head-removal.

It's probably a lost skill set.

[Martinus]

A couple of kurds run one of my favorite kebab spots in downtown Barcelona, I hope they are sending my hard-earned 5€ to the peshmergas. I will even order extra chick pea salad next time.

Yeah, as a community they deserve a break;  I think it's time they formalised themselves as an independent state* . Which we should then recognise.



* I don't think it's up to the West to do that or define it, given the historic problem of having set out previous borders there.

Yeah, now that Turkey is going full retard, my sympathies are fully with the Kurds.  Maybe if they get their own country, it will be just another Stan, but I think that they deserve to have a go at it.

In fact, it will almost certainly be another Stan. Kurdi-Stan, specifically.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Whatever happened to traditional beheadings in which you actually cut the guy's head off to kill them. Most of these people are having their throats slit and then they just hack/saw the head off the already dead body. Middle Ages Euro rulers would be shocked at their incompetence in head-removal.

they're not doing traditional beheadings but butchering people like cattle. Which is the point. unbelievers just animals to be butchered for them.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Whatever happened to traditional beheadings in which you actually cut the guy's head off to kill them. Most of these people are having their throats slit and then they just hack/saw the head off the already dead body. Middle Ages Euro rulers would be shocked at their incompetence in head-removal.

they're not doing traditional beheadings but butchering people like cattle. Which is the point. unbelievers just animals to be butchered for them.

That sounds about right. A medieval beheading was a courtesy extended to the higher ranks, the lower orders had to put up with a hanging.

[Martinus]

If you want quality beheadings, you need to go to Saudi Arabia. ISIL is a poor man's copy cat.

[Eddie Teach]

ISIL is a poor man's copy cat.

They po' but they proud.

[alfred russel]

Whatever happened to traditional beheadings in which you actually cut the guy's head off to kill them. Most of these people are having their throats slit and then they just hack/saw the head off the already dead body. Middle Ages Euro rulers would be shocked at their incompetence in head-removal.

Having your throat slit kills you, but it doesn't kill you that quickly.

It is all relative. Slower than a guillotine. But faster than cancer or an execution in Oklahoma.

[mongers]

Whatever happened to traditional beheadings in which you actually cut the guy's head off to kill them. Most of these people are having their throats slit and then they just hack/saw the head off the already dead body. Middle Ages Euro rulers would be shocked at their incompetence in head-removal.

Having your throat slit kills you, but it doesn't kill you that quickly.

It is all relative. Slower than a guillotine. But faster than cancer or living in Oklahoma.

FYP

[11B4V]

Whatever happened to traditional beheadings in which you actually cut the guy's head off to kill them. Most of these people are having their throats slit and then they just hack/saw the head off the already dead body. Middle Ages Euro rulers would be shocked at their incompetence in head-removal.

Because it hurts more.

[Siege]

Because muslims do not have the physical strenght to behead a person with any type of handheld blade.
It is a proven fact that muslims are physically weaker than other people.
I mean fit, military serving people, not Timmay or Mono working in an office, of course.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Having your throat slit kills you, but it doesn't kill you that quickly.

Sure, but depending on how deep they cut loss of consciousness is pretty damn quick.

[OttoVonBismarck]

I wonder why westerners and Japanese are still going there.  Why did they go there in the first place?

Journalists go for the story, aid workers go for the feels. However both of them could get either in any number of safer places--in fact reporters scurrying around Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan have frankly published very few meaningful stories about these conflict zones. I'm not saying there is no value to on the ground journalism, but most of the more meaningful pieces to come out during the GWoT have been written by typical journalists working in cushy major cities in the West doing traditional investigative journalism. So in addition to their justification for being there, part of it in my frank opinion is the "thrill seeker" aspect. People get addicted to this stuff. A lot of reporters have been kidnapped multiple times and keep going back to war zones (I believe a few of the ones ISIS beheaded fell into that category actually, this wasn't their first time in terrorist hands.)

It's probably a lost skill set.

I've never watched a Saudi beheading, but I'm assuming they have headsmen who know what's what.

they're not doing traditional beheadings but butchering people like cattle. Which is the point. unbelievers just animals to be butchered for them.

Right, but they are justifying it based on a passage from the Quran that says to "strike at the neck", to me a strike is...a strike. Not a slit with a knife. I feel these ISIS guys don't have the ability to properly swing an axe or sword and that's embarrassing for people who want to be holy warriors.