Mozilla CEO resigns because of Prop 8 donation in 2008

[Barrister]

Remember, you're talking about young earth creationists.

And he is talking about people who have no other qualifications for the job.  CC isn't a creationist, and yet having him as a science chair at a university would also "be odd to say the least."

I agree.  But there are people who call themselves scientists who believe the world was created in 6000 years.  Would you hire such a person to run a science department Grumbler?

Assuming the person actually is a scientist and has the proper credentials, and isn't pushing some specific anti-evolution agenda, why not?

Running a science department is very much an administrative job, involved in managing the scientists under you.

I would hate to disqualify someone with the proper credentials and experience just because they attend a holy-roller church on sundays.

[crazy canuck]

Remember, you're talking about young earth creationists.

And he is talking about people who have no other qualifications for the job.  CC isn't a creationist, and yet having him as a science chair at a university would also "be odd to say the least."

I agree.  But there are people who call themselves scientists who believe the world was created in 6000 years.  Would you hire such a person to run a science department Grumbler?

Assuming the person actually is a scientist and has the proper credentials, and isn't pushing some specific anti-evolution agenda, why not?

Running a science department is very much an administrative job, involved in managing the scientists under you.

I would hate to disqualify someone with the proper credentials and experience just because they attend a holy-roller church on sundays.

I wouldnt disquality them just because they attend a "holy roller church" either.  I would disqulity them on the basis that their belief that the world is only 6000 years old requires them to reject all the science that says otherwise.


Btw running a science department at a university is a lot more than "managing scientists under you". 

[grumbler]

I agree.  But there are people who call themselves scientists who believe the world was created in 6000 years.  Would you hire such a person to run a science department Grumbler?

As i have said repeatedly, that would depend on the person's other qualifications.  Certainly a belief that some scientific evidence is real and some is "planted" is a pretty high barrier to overcome.  I don't believe that such "a Creationist would never be tolerated" in such a position, though. 

Hell, far from "never be tolerated" at Jim Jones University (or whatever it is called these days), such a creationist may actually hold the science chair! 

[Eddie Teach]

Jim Jones University folded due to its inability to keep faculty.

[grumbler]

Jim Jones University folded due to its inability to keep faculty.

They'd drink the kool-aid and then go to Bob Jones University. 

[derspiess]

My cousin's kid is going to Liberty University this fall

[Ideologue]

One does not have to be a Christian to be a good scholar of Christianity.  Indeed, the case of Ehrman being a good scholar of Christianity led him to change his beliefs.  On the other hand it is hard to imagine a person who believes that the world is 6000 years old also has a good grasp of the science which proves otherwise.

That's called "moving the goal posts."  You said "creationist."  Not all creationists believe that the world was created 6,000 years ago.

Even so, I could see even a person who thinks that the world (and universe) was only 6,000 years old could serve as a science chair, so long as he understands (as you do not) that science says nothing about "proving" the age of the universe, and he has enough countervailing attributes  Science simply reports what the evidence leads us to believe, with the assumption that everything works as scientists believe that it does.  Science disproves things (with caveats) but doesn't prove anything.

It's a good thing for those creationist science chairs that "prove otherwise" doesn't mean "disprove."

[Ideologue]

Anyway, CFA sucks.  It's bland garbage food.








Three... two... one... FAHDIZ?!?

[Ed Anger]

HEY NOW

[Capetan Mihali]

HEY NOW

Ever eat a Chik-Fil-A sandwich "hold the chicken"?  You'd agree, I assure you.

[grumbler]

It's a good thing for those creationist science chairs that "prove otherwise" doesn't mean "disprove."

Indeed.  "Prove otherwise" is not a scientifically useful term.  "Disprove" on the other hand, is extremely useful in science.

[grumbler]

HEY NOW

Ever eat a Chik-Fil-A sandwich "hold the chicken"?  You'd agree, I assure you.

Why would you want to hold a chicken?  They are filthy critters.

[dps]

HEY NOW

Ever eat a Chik-Fil-A sandwich "hold the chicken"?  You'd agree, I assure you.

Why would you want to hold a chicken?  They are filthy critters.

Maybe it's a euphemism.

[PDH]

HEY NOW

Ever eat a Chik-Fil-A sandwich "hold the chicken"?  You'd agree, I assure you.

Why would you want to hold a chicken?  They are filthy critters.

Maybe it's a euphemism.

We aren't talking tubas here.

[grumbler]

HEY NOW

Ever eat a Chik-Fil-A sandwich "hold the chicken"?  You'd agree, I assure you.

Why would you want to hold a chicken?  They are filthy critters.

Maybe it's a euphemism.

Why would he want to hold a euphemism?  They are filthy sayings.