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Which early carrier do you like best?

Started by Neil, February 21, 2014, 11:02:31 PM

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What is your favorite early aircraft carrier

USN - Lexington-class
16 (50%)
RN - Furious
1 (3.1%)
RN - Glorious-class
0 (0%)
RN - Eagle
0 (0%)
RN - Hermes
1 (3.1%)
IJN - Akagi
5 (15.6%)
IJN - Kaga
5 (15.6%)
MN - Béarn
4 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 31

Neil

Quote from: alfred russel on February 23, 2014, 10:19:40 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on February 23, 2014, 10:07:08 PM
How can the Lexington be winning with that funnel? Languish ...  :rolleyes:
I probably know less about this stuff than anyone here, but I think the British carriers can be disqualified because they were effectively dysfunctional. They put so much armor on those things they could hardly hold any planes.

If it is a beauty contest between the Lexington and the Japanese, I think the Lexington holds its own, and if practical considerations come into play, it wins.
It the Lexington more practical than Akagi or Kaga?

These RN carriers were the early ones, before the massively armoured flight decks of the Illustrious-class (which wasn't such a bad idea, really).  The RN carriers had smaller air groups even then, but that's because they were 10-25,000-ton ships, whereas the Americans and Japanese had built 45,000-ton carriers.
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Siege



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Monoriu

I don't understand about this entire Ship Girls thing.  So far there is no anime show on this, no overall plot or story.  The idea of having moe girls represent WWII Imperial Japanese warships is widely considered weird (and I agree).  There is only some sort of online card game out.  So far all I've seen is a few pictures, and some vague descriptions of a few individual girls.  That's it.

Yet it seems to be immensely popular, and even non-anime watchers have noticed it. 

Syt

There's a big wiki on those and my take-away is that at the moment it's an online card game where players collect/buy cards to defeat aliens?

The number of classes included is pretty extensive, though. Possibly better than HoI3's? :P

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ship_Class

Though the subs are creepy.
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Lettow77

To call it an online cardgame is slightly misleading, in that you don't really  have either a deck or much in the way of plays. The kanmusu are represented as cards, but its mostly just a grindy free-to-play game. Its popularity means you can find goods for it in convenience stores, manga has been released, and its getting an anime.

Mono, this sort of thing isnt isolated at all; touhou is extremely similar. A lack of anime and strong characterization can be a huge boon if a series picks up a thriving doujin community and fanon continuity. Most of the personality of the ships is hivemind concensus extrapolating on small details; its more in the hands of the players than the barebones game content.
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

Monoriu

Quote from: Lettow77 on February 25, 2014, 04:11:52 AM
To call it an online cardgame is slightly misleading, in that you don't really  have either a deck or much in the way of plays. The kanmusu are represented as cards, but its mostly just a grindy free-to-play game. Its popularity means you can find goods for it in convenience stores, manga has been released, and its getting an anime.

Mono, this sort of thing isnt isolated at all; touhou is extremely similar. A lack of anime and strong characterization can be a huge boon if a series picks up a thriving doujin community and fanon continuity. Most of the personality of the ships is hivemind concensus extrapolating on small details; its more in the hands of the players than the barebones game content.

I am pretty much anime only.  Don't have time for the source materials or fanon.

I will watch the anime when it comes out, just to see what the fuss is all about.  Hopefully it'll be as good as Strike Witches.  Less fanservice this time, please.  A bit surprised that so far I only see Japanese warships.  So it isn't a grand alliance of earth nations vs aliens like Strike Witches? 

My impression is that anime first shows can be very good or very bad.  If they are not restrained by the source material and don't have to be concerned about the inevitable comparisons, they can do a really good job, like Evangelion, Anohana, Code Geass and Madoka.  The popularity of the successful game should convince investors to put in a sufficiently large animation budget. 

Lettow77

AnoHana good? Do what now?

Besides that though, stifle your hopes. It is being animated by diomedea. The odds of this being a good anime seems very remote.
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

Monoriu

Quote from: Lettow77 on February 25, 2014, 05:15:04 AM
AnoHana good? Do what now?

Besides that though, stifle your hopes. It is being animated by diomedea. The odds of this being a good anime seems very remote.

I love Anohana.  One of the best shows out there.  Former friends rediscovering friendships that have long been set aside.  I am a huge sucker for emotional, hardhitting and tearjerking anime shows.  I heard that moviegoers of the movie adaptation are each handed a box of tissue when they enter the theatres, and I can see why.  Wonderful music as well.  The Secret Base ED theme is fantastic.  Lovely performances by Ai Kayano and Haruka Tomatsu.  I understand that this is the star-making show for the former.  Also, top notch animation for a TV series. 

grumbler

I blame Neil.  Once upon a time, this forum had an anime thread, and anyone that didn't care about anime could just avoid that thread.  Now, every thread becomes an anime thread.

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Monoriu

Quote from: grumbler on February 25, 2014, 07:20:26 AM
I blame Neil.  Once upon a time, this forum had an anime thread, and anyone that didn't care about anime could just avoid that thread.  Now, every thread becomes an anime thread.

LANGISH IZ DYING!

Guilty as charged.  I'm still waiting for someone to start an anime thread.  Or to resurrect the old ones. 

celedhring


Neil

The ones that are Shokaku and Zuikaku don't ever go to Midway.
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celedhring

Since this is the current anime thread, I'll say that I just started watching Legend of the Galactic Heroes and, well, it's pretty damn great.