How Japan’s ‘BBC’ is rewriting its role in the Second World War

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The Brain

Quote from: Agelastus on February 12, 2014, 02:38:12 PM

I've got a feeling there was some controversy in Asia about "Outbreak Company",

LOL no shit. I got 731 problems...
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Agelastus

Quote from: The Brain on February 12, 2014, 02:41:03 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on February 12, 2014, 02:38:12 PM

I've got a feeling there was some controversy in Asia about "Outbreak Company",

LOL no shit. I got 731 problems...

Predictable. :sigh:

Did you even bother looking up what the series was about before posting?
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Quote from: Agelastus on February 12, 2014, 03:05:02 PM
Quote from: The Brain on February 12, 2014, 02:41:03 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on February 12, 2014, 02:38:12 PM

I've got a feeling there was some controversy in Asia about "Outbreak Company",

LOL no shit. I got 731 problems...

Predictable. :sigh:

Did you even bother looking up what the series was about before posting?

Heeeeeeell no! :x
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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Agelastus

Quote from: Razgovory on February 12, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
Why do the anime chicks all looks the same?

The detail/cost ratio.

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Anyway, pulled this off of Sankaku Complex*. It seemed relevant to the context of the thread,


QuoteThe Chinese government has expressed its outrage at a Japanese town's efforts to get its collection of kamikaze pilot memorabilia granted UNESCO recognition.

The city of Minami Kyushu, in southern Kyushu of all places, has applied for UNESCO recognition of its morbid collection of last wills and farewell letters from kamikaze pilots who gloriously flew themselves into various American ships and patches of ocean.

It hosted an airbase which sent hundreds of the pilots flying at US targets as they went about the final destruction of Japan's empire, and UNESCO world heritage status for the collection would "highlight the importance of world peace" (as well as quite possibly make them into a minor tourist attraction).

China is appalled at the prospect, with their foreign ministry lambasting their application quite thoroughly:


"The design behind the so-called application for the kamikaze pilots is very clear, which is to try and beautify the Japanese militarist history of invasion."

"This intention is diametrically opposed to UNESCO's objective of maintaining world peace, and must be strongly condemned and resolutely opposed by the international community."


PM Abe's insistence on visiting Yasukuni, modest increases to defence spending and efforts to appoint historical revisionists who maintain Japan's wartime conduct was beyond reproach to every public body in his power have all conspired to grievously annoy China recently – although outwardly their conduct towards the previous DPJ government so keen to kowtow to them seems to have been little different.

The government of the US meanwhile, although quick to castigate Abe for visiting Yasukuni, have so far not bothered to comment on the crazed actions of a metropolis with as many as 37,000 inhabitants.

This is the Reuters article that was linked in the above - http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/10/us-china-japan-idUSBREA190AX20140210

What does Languish think?

Personally, I agree that the letters are unique and important historical documents; I'm undecided as to whether or not they deserve "World Heritage" Status.

*Not linked due to site being NSFW in many respects.

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Monoriu

Quote from: Malthus on February 12, 2014, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Also, all this thread has taught me so far is that it is proper to judge anime fans. -_-

One does get the impression, hopefully mistaken, that most of these shows basically appeal to pervs.  :lol:

I mean, naked 12 year olds? And it's okay because she's the sexually aggressive one? No. Just ... no.

Freud would have had a field day with sunken Japanese battleships personified by sexy schoolgirls.

That's like getting impression that all book readers are pervs because some books portray child porn  :P  Anime is just a medium.  It can depict anything, from serious shows to harem shows.

Malthus

Quote from: Monoriu on February 12, 2014, 06:02:16 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 12, 2014, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Also, all this thread has taught me so far is that it is proper to judge anime fans. -_-

One does get the impression, hopefully mistaken, that most of these shows basically appeal to pervs.  :lol:

I mean, naked 12 year olds? And it's okay because she's the sexually aggressive one? No. Just ... no.

Freud would have had a field day with sunken Japanese battleships personified by sexy schoolgirls.

That's like getting impression that all book readers are pervs because some books portray child porn  :P  Anime is just a medium.  It can depict anything, from serious shows to harem shows.

I'm just going by what's in this thread.  :P

Clearly, it is arguable that 'anime is all about the pervs' is an unfair stereotype ... but the contents of this thread, in particular how this favorite show contains sexualized scenes with 12 year old girls, is not disabusing me of that stereotype.
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Monoriu

Quote from: Razgovory on February 12, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
Why do the anime chicks all looks the same?

Check out the "Flowers of Evil".  They tried a more realistic look.  Sparked some controversy. 

As for anime characters all looking the same, I myself have this impression too.  Some anime are better than others in this department.  The differences are mainly in hair style/colour, eye colour/shape, and clothing. 

Razgovory

Quote from: Monoriu on February 12, 2014, 06:09:54 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 12, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
Why do the anime chicks all looks the same?

Check out the "Flowers of Evil".  They tried a more realistic look.  Sparked some controversy. 

As for anime characters all looking the same, I myself have this impression too.  Some anime are better than others in this department.  The differences are mainly in hair style/colour, eye colour/shape, and clothing.

Well I compare it to US animation.  There are a lot of styles in US animation.  The Simpsons looks different then The Little Mermaid which is different than Bugs Bunny cartoons.  Japanese anime seems to have a much smaller range of styles, so in my eyes it looks derivative and stagnant.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Monoriu

Quote from: Malthus on February 12, 2014, 06:07:27 PM


I'm just going by what's in this thread.  :P

Clearly, it is arguable that 'anime is all about the pervs' is an unfair stereotype ... but the contents of this thread, in particular how this favorite show contains sexualized scenes with 12 year old girls, is not disabusing me of that stereotype.

Not going to argue with you about the 12 year old thing.  I hope they didn't include those scenes in an otherwise excellent anime.  I am willing to overlook the, what, 0.1% of the scenes that are problematic.  I understand why some people, especially westerners, can't.  Apparently it is not a problem in Japan, as Strike Witches has a large following. 


MadImmortalMan

Just trying to make wearing nothing but panties common at cosplay conventions. Could be good I suppose.  :P
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Razgovory

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 12, 2014, 06:45:17 PM
Just trying to make wearing nothing but panties common at cosplay conventions. Could be good I suppose.  :P

I wonder what the ratio of hotties to not so hotties are at those things.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Razgovory on February 12, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 12, 2014, 06:45:17 PM
Just trying to make wearing nothing but panties common at cosplay conventions. Could be good I suppose.  :P

I wonder what the ratio of hotties to not so hotties are at those things.

It's probably not great. But I do suspect wearing a sexy outfit would have a sort of self-selecting aspect to it. I mean, you wouldn't be brave enough to do it unless you thought you were attractive enough for it.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers