[de Blasio] Living in a post-Bloomberg era

[Barrister]

For decades, police in New York and elsewhere had confiscated condoms from sex work suspects ostensibly for them to be used as evidence in criminal trials, even though the overwhelming majority of prostitution cases never go to trial.

Maybe the majority of cases don't go to trial because the police did a good job in their investigation, including seizing all relevant evidence, thus leading to a guilty plea?

I mean, I'm sure the drug dealers don't like it when police seize their cell phones either.

[The Minsky Moment]

*Used* condoms would be a better analogy to cell phones, BB.

[derspiess]

Your bait is getting a bit stale, Spicy.

I'm serious.  Why not just call them prostitutes?  Using the term "worker" lends false dignity to what they do and denigrates people who are actually doing real, productive work.

[The Brain]

Your bait is getting a bit stale, Spicy.

I'm serious.  Why not just call them prostitutes?  Using the term "worker" lends false dignity to what they do and denigrates people who are actually doing real, productive work.

Service jobs aren't productive?

[derspiess]

Service jobs aren't productive?

Some are.

[DGuller]

Your bait is getting a bit stale, Spicy.

I'm serious.  Why not just call them prostitutes?  Using the term "worker" lends false dignity to what they do and denigrates people who are actually doing real, productive work.

I can understand the moral indignation, but saying that they're not doing real, productive work?  How do you define productive work?  If anything, cops that fight unbeatable crimes that shouldn't even be crimes, like prostitution, are the ones not doing any productive work.

[Sheilbh]

I get DS's point- and he's wrong about prostitutes. Though I'd take it from the perspective that it's maybe a problematic description, but not as bad as 'client'. But then I suppose that's to be expected.

[CountDeMoney]

I'm serious.  Why not just call them prostitutes?  Using the term "worker" lends false dignity to what they do and denigrates people who are actually doing real, productive work.

Managing to sell something to people that is otherwise free is incredibly entrepreneurial and productive.

But I can see why you'd prefer "prostitutes", considering how you hate women.

[Admiral Yi]

I dislike sex workers as well.  Not because I think the service they provide is without value, but because it's contrived and I disapprove of the practice of changing the names of things in an attempt to engineer attitudes.

If you want people to think better of prostitutes, change their minds about prostitution.

[DGuller]

I dislike sex workers as well.  Not because I think the service they provide is without value, but because it's contrived and I disapprove of the practice of changing the names of things in an attempt to engineer attitudes.

If you want people to think better of prostitutes, change their minds about prostitution.

Agreed on that point.  One of the things about the left that I find annoying is that people think that by getting on a euphemism treadmill you're going to solve the problem being described.  They don't realize that it just breeds resentment for the left's ideas.

[garbon]

I don't see any issue with. One, it isn't like it is a new term and two, politics (and in particular, sexual politics) often involves changing the conversation through terminology. Frankly, I'm not surprised that people don't want to use a term that people use as a slur.

[Jacob]

Your bait is getting a bit stale, Spicy.

I'm serious.  Why not just call them prostitutes?  Using the term "worker" lends false dignity to what they do and denigrates people who are actually doing real, productive work.

That's a bit juicier

[sbr]

I dislike sex workers as well.  Not because I think the service they provide is without value, but because it's contrived and I disapprove of the practice of changing the names of things in an attempt to engineer attitudes.

If you want people to think better of prostitutes, change their minds about prostitution.

How do so many people, make so much money, for such a long period of time selling something without value?

[Valmy]

Frankly, I'm not surprised that people don't want to use a term that people use as a slur.

Eh the new one just becomes the new slur eventually.

[garbon]

Frankly, I'm not surprised that people don't want to use a term that people use as a slur.

Eh the new one just becomes the new slur eventually.

And old terms get reclaimed.