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Started by merithyn, December 23, 2013, 10:06:11 AM

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Monoriu

Does it mean that Siege will have to salute Alci now?

grumbler

Saluting varies more than you'd think across services.  In the Naval services, one doesn't salute when uncovered (i.e. not wearing uniform headgear) nor when indoors.  I don't know about the other services, but, in the Navy, you salute someone in the same organization as you (or someone you are working with repeatedly in a given day) only the first time you meet them in a given day, or when reporting something to them officially.  A report that is given with a salute becomes an official report.  In the Naval services, only, you can salute left-handed if one cannot use the right hand (that comes from small boat experiences where, if on the right side of the boat in heavy seas, you are hanging on with the right hand). If your right arm is broken, for instance, you salute left-handed.

The silver dollar goes to the first person who salutes you, not the first person you salute.  In the Navy, that silver dollar is considered a good luck piece and isn't spent, but kept.  You generally pick one of your training NCOs to be the first to salute you.

A civilian saluting would have been considered gauche.  The civilian equivalent to the salute is to hold one's hand (or hat, if one is wearing one) over the heart.
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Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on December 23, 2013, 05:15:51 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 23, 2013, 03:50:18 PMSweden was a polite society when Americans were naked savages.

Please, Sweden wasn't civilized until the 1800s. We've had white people in America since the 1600s.

I'm talking about the 1960s. I have no idea what you are talking about.
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derspiess

Quote from: Monoriu on December 23, 2013, 05:53:33 PM
Does it mean that Siege will have to salute Alci now?

Yeah, and Hans will be able to fire him.
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OttoVonBismarck

Quote from: The Brain on December 23, 2013, 05:55:11 PMI'm talking about the 1960s. I have no idea what you are talking about.

The 1800s and 1600s, English, can you read it motherfucker?

The Brain

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on December 23, 2013, 06:06:18 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 23, 2013, 05:55:11 PMI'm talking about the 1960s. I have no idea what you are talking about.

The 1800s and 1600s, English, can you read it motherfucker?

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MadBurgerMaker

Quote from: grumbler on December 23, 2013, 05:54:48 PM
The silver dollar goes to the first person who salutes you, not the first person you salute.  In the Navy, that silver dollar is considered a good luck piece and isn't spent, but kept.  You generally pick one of your training NCOs to be the first to salute you.

I still have the silver dollar some shiny new Ensign gave me when I was a shiny new enlisted guy only a couple weeks out of boot camp.  I was headed back to the Aircrew barracks after getting a haircut and just happened to be walking by right after they graduated.  I saluted him like normal, then became very alarmed when he started walking right toward me immediately after.  I'm standing there thinking wtf did I do wrong when he shook my hand and gave me a silver dollar.   :lol:  "Oh....uh....oh...congratulations sir."

grumbler

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 23, 2013, 06:45:40 PM
I still have the silver dollar some shiny new Ensign gave me when I was a shiny new enlisted guy only a couple weeks out of boot camp.  I was headed back to the Aircrew barracks after getting a haircut and just happened to be walking by right after they graduated.  I saluted him like normal, then became very alarmed when he started walking right toward me immediately after.  I'm standing there thinking wtf did I do wrong when he shook my hand and gave me a silver dollar.   :lol:  "Oh....uh....oh...congratulations sir."

Great story, and it didn't even start "this is no shit..."
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Quote from: merithyn on December 23, 2013, 02:17:05 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 23, 2013, 10:24:04 AM
Civilians just don't need to salute anyone.  Why would they? 

How does a civilian show the proper respect for an officer, then? I mean, assuming that they wanted to.

Presumably in the same manner that civilian would wish to show proper respect for any other person.
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Berkut

Yeah, gotta agree with grumbler.

Saluting someone in the military as a civilian, unless there is some extenuating circumstances, would be seen as mostly just kind of weird and uncouth. It isn't strictly wrong, just not really appropriate. A salute is a military thing.

If you want to show someone in the military respect, a nice handshake and "thanks for your service" is the way to go, IMO.
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What if it's a military type who is about to rock?
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As a Kentucky Colronel, I demand Cal salute me.
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Quote from: Ed Anger on December 23, 2013, 08:00:50 PM
As a Kentucky Colronel, I demand Cal salute me.

I'm sure he has a salute in mind for you.

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