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Ukraine's European Revolution?

Started by Sheilbh, December 03, 2013, 07:39:37 AM

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Syt

Quote from: Viking on May 08, 2014, 10:07:05 AM
@syt - spray painting the ukrainian flag, a successor state of  the soviet union, on the memorial to the soldiers of the 2nd and 3rd ukrainina fronts might be considered fitting. Anyways Russia complaining about treaty from 1955 while ignoring the budapest memorandum from 1995 is chutzpah.

They also harp on about "freedom of press" or "freedom and democracy" when criticizing events in other countries - the double standards are strong with them, and they're not even very good at pretending.
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derspiess

Quote from: DGuller on May 08, 2014, 09:58:30 AM
Actually, Austria is probably in unique position here.  The Soviets removed the Nazis from their lands without actually replacing them with themselves.  Of course, the extent to which Austria was an unwilling partner of Germany could be debated;  if it wasn't that unwilling, then it couldn't be "liberated" in the first place.

I don't think any of the Austrian women raped by Red Army soldiers felt too liberated.
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Tamas

Quote from: Syt on May 08, 2014, 09:52:38 AM
It's amusing how the Russians always get all huffy when a Soviet war memorial is vandalized.

Hungarian Internet retards nowadays, when reacting to comparisons between the Soviet Union's oppressive aggressive nature and Putin's similar shticks, always use the excuse "that was the Soviets, not Russians"

Agelastus

Quote from: Tamas on May 08, 2014, 11:06:23 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 08, 2014, 09:52:38 AM
It's amusing how the Russians always get all huffy when a Soviet war memorial is vandalized.

Hungarian Internet retards nowadays, when reacting to comparisons between the Soviet Union's oppressive aggressive nature and Putin's similar shticks, always use the excuse "that was the Soviets, not Russians"

:lol:

Even if the argument wasn't completely specious, does this mean that they are unaware of Putin's background?
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Tamas

Quote from: Agelastus on May 08, 2014, 11:34:40 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 08, 2014, 11:06:23 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 08, 2014, 09:52:38 AM
It's amusing how the Russians always get all huffy when a Soviet war memorial is vandalized.

Hungarian Internet retards nowadays, when reacting to comparisons between the Soviet Union's oppressive aggressive nature and Putin's similar shticks, always use the excuse "that was the Soviets, not Russians"

:lol:

Even if the argument wasn't completely specious, does this mean that they are unaware of Putin's background?

I don't know. The Hungarian Right is just dripping wet from Putin at the moment. First of all they are supposed to, as the governing FIDESZ has made a big deal with him making us financial slaves to Russia, and Jobbik the far-right party is on the payroll of Russia.
Secondly what they see in the Ukraine business is a realistic chance to grab the previously Hungarian strip of land currently owned by Ukraine. Which is of course crazy and idiotic.

On the other hand, hating the soviet era is a cornerstone of rightish views, so they do need excuses like this "soviet, not Russian" idiocy to keep them going.

Solmyr

The "Donetsk People's Republic" has declared itself a sovereign state after yesterday's referendum. Russia said that it will honor the results.

derspiess

That's pretty honorable of them.
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Caliga

Quote from: Viking on May 08, 2014, 07:41:12 AM
The true reason for invading Iraq.
LOL can I be: Bobby the Barbarian. :cool:
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Admiral Yi

Recently read in an FT article about the German disease of Russia-understanding that Helmut Schmidt attended Schroeder's birthday party in St.  Petersburg.  No mention  of hugging Putin.

It also mentioned that the Gerrman Green party is unique on the left in condemning Russia's activities in Ukraine.

Sheilbh

Don't make me feel dubious about Schmidt :weep:

Let's bomb Russia!

The Larch

Apparently Russia is threatening to let the International Space Station run out after 2020 due to the sanctions approved by the US.

Razgovory

Who need their space station.  We can build our own space station, with hooker and blackjack!
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Tamas


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No sharks in the space station, the taxpayers won't go for that kind of waste.  :mad:
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