Obamacare and you

[CountDeMoney]

I wouldn't say weak as much as fractured, and they're pulling in different directions.

LOL, but no, I'd rather not see today's GOP with a two-house Congressional majority with Ted Cruz in the White House.  And we thought Mitt Romney's first 90 day blueprint would've eliminated government?  Sheesh.

Clinton-O'Malley* '16 will steady the waters.  With their combined strength, they can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy.




*Maybe even Clinton-Castro '16.  No, that would be Julian, unfortunately.

[CountDeMoney]

I read Frank Rich's column in the NYT every week, so I can appreciate the technical mastery required to assign blame without stating a single testable thesis. 

So you're saying all this is mere coincidence, and not the results of a well-organized, ideologically-unified and well-motivated and driven opposition?

[Admiral Yi]

So you're saying all this is mere coincidence, and not the results of a well-organized, ideologically-unified and well-motivated and driven opposition?

So you're trying to make the incendiary, earth shattering point that the GOP opposes Obamacare, and to help you make this revelatory point you linked to an article that's trying to argue that the problems of Obamacare are due to Republican sabotoge? 

[CountDeMoney]

I felt it summed up the salient GOP efforts that directly affected an altered its course.

Nigga can't even give props when props is due.  Damn.

[derspiess]

No, numbnuts:  it's a superlative example of oppositional non-government.

Whereas Obama is a shining example of Presidential non-government.  Nothing is ever his fault-- it's always someone else to blame.  I bet Bush is somehow to blame for the Obamacare website fiasco. 

[Admiral Yi]

I felt it summed up the salient GOP efforts that directly affected an altered its course.

I felt it was a valiant effort to spin the computer fuckup and the mandate sticker shock as the fault of Republicans.

[grumbler]

Whereas Obama is a shining example of Presidential non-government.  Nothing is ever his fault-- it's always someone else to blame.  I bet Bush is somehow to blame for the Obamacare website fiasco. 

To be fair, Obama is no different from Bush in that regard.  Dubya and the shrubbery always blamed the Democrats for their own blunders, just as Democrats now blame Republicans.

Bush senior was probably the last president to stop the buck.  Clinton probably lacked the moral courage to do it, but we won't know because the psychotic episode the Republican leadership suffered when Clinton was elected made it impossible for Clinton to accept much responsibility; had he done so, he would have been impeached in his second day, not his second term.

[CountDeMoney]

No, numbnuts:  it's a superlative example of oppositional non-government.

Whereas Obama is a shining example of Presidential non-government.  Nothing is ever his fault-- it's always someone else to blame.  I bet Bush is somehow to blame for the Obamacare website fiasco.

Being professorial and deliberate to the point of paralysis while failing to react to the nuances of the news cycle doesn't mean it's somebody else's fault.  Silly Teabagger.

[CountDeMoney]

To be fair, Obama is no different from Bush in that regard.  Dubya and the shrubbery always blamed the Democrats for their own blunders, just as Democrats now blame Republicans.

Meh, with Dubya's administration, there was always the insinuation that any Democratic resistance to policy was unpatriotic, and that the terrorists would win.

[Neil]

You know, given the depth of Republican sentiment on Obamacare, sabotage really isn't that unthinkable.  They shut down the government over it and there were a significant portion of their troops who seemed to favour destroying the modern economies over it.

[CountDeMoney]

Dude, no way shutting down the government and sending home all the Fed IT people right at rollout time for over two weeks would ever impact a project of that scale, and to think it was nothing more than mere coincidence is feeding into the paranoia.

[Razgovory]

Most of the Tea Party caucus doesn't really strike me as "big picture", thinkers.

[Admiral Yi]

Dude, no way shutting down the government and sending home all the Fed IT people right at rollout time for over two weeks would ever impact a project of that scale, and to think it was nothing more than mere coincidence is feeding into the paranoia.

To think it was anything more than coincidence right after bruising hearings during which the Secretary of Health and Human Services had all the opportunity in the world to inform Congress that the problem was due, even in part, to the government shutdown but chose instead to say she had been informed by her team that it was all ready to go, is a desperate attempt to deflect criticism and reassign blame.

[Neil]

Wouldn't it make sense to assign the blame in the first place to Republicans, who have stabbed America in the back?

[Admiral Yi]

If by make sense you mean it would be coocoo, then yes.