Obamacare and you

[CountDeMoney]

11Bravo doesn't hate the ACA.  He just hates the people that need it.  THERES A DIFFERENCE

I dont hate you. 

You just don't want me to have access to affordable health insurance, that's all.  Nothing personal, I can dig it.

[11B4V]

Hitler learns of the Obamacare problems:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3-RKS0_NKk

Ford has sold more Pintos than have enrolled in Obamacare, after people learned they were death traps.

I 'bout fell out of my chair.

[lustindarkness]

Hitler learns of the Obamacare problems:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3-RKS0_NKk

That was pretty good Thank you.

[CountDeMoney]

It was only a matter of time for a Downfall meme.

[CountDeMoney]

"He didn't know you still drive a Pinto, Sandra."

[garbon]

I liked SNL's coverage woes. I'd like to sign up for the Trollish plan and eagerly await my copy of Encarta'95 and 1000 free hours of AOL.

[merithyn]

I received my Open Enrollment package in the mail today. It included this note: "I am very pleased to share with you that rates for this coverage have stayed the save for 2014 - no increase in premium costs to employees."

[grumbler]

Free stuff is pretty popular when you can't afford real stuff in the first place.

Then you admit obamacare is unaffordable.

So is Bushcare.  That was the point of reform.

The US will discover that it isn't magical, and that single-payer (even with opt-out provisions like Germany) will be necessary, just as all of the other industrialized nations have discovered.  I really don't understand why healthcare reform had to go down this obviously non-viable path.  Even the right-wingers have to see that health care simply doesn't respond to market forces.

[Admiral Yi]

Under Bushcare the cheapest option was $0. 

The computer glitch is what it is, a fuck up that can be fixed.  For those who weren't aware, it's all the fault of the Canadians anyway.

What I believe will be a bigger issue is when the great unwashed masses become aware for the first time that they will have to buy insurance for the first time or pay a fine.

[CountDeMoney]

For those who weren't aware, it's all the fault of the Canadians anyway.

Bastards probably used the metric system in the code.

[grumbler]

Under Bushcare the cheapest option was $0. 

And it was a great option, because you got coverage as a free rider.  That option was $0 to the participant, but not the system.

The computer glitch is what it is, a fuck up that can be fixed.

Yeah, the angst over the rollout glitches seems to be motivated by stupidity, politics, or stupid politicians.

What I believe will be a bigger issue is when the great unwashed masses become aware for the first time that they will have to buy insurance for the first time or pay a fine.

Yeah, the free riders will squeal.  They always do.

[11B4V]

MSNBC? The honeymoon is finally ended between these two????

Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite

[Grey Fox]

Under Bushcare the cheapest option was $0. 

The computer glitch is what it is, a fuck up that can be fixed.  For those who weren't aware, it's all the fault of the Canadians anyway.

What I believe will be a bigger issue is when the great unwashed masses become aware for the first time that they will have to buy insurance for the first time or pay a fine.

It's your own fault to give a contract to CGI.

[Hansmeister]

Free stuff is pretty popular when you can't afford real stuff in the first place.

Then you admit obamacare is unaffordable.

So is Bushcare.  That was the point of reform.

The US will discover that it isn't magical, and that single-payer (even with opt-out provisions like Germany) will be necessary, just as all of the other industrialized nations have discovered.  I really don't understand why healthcare reform had to go down this obviously non-viable path.  Even the right-wingers have to see that health care simply doesn't respond to market forces.

Germany doesn't have single payer.  The UK does, and it is known as the worst health care system in the western world.

[Sheilbh]

Germany doesn't have single payer.  The UK does, and it is known as the worst health care system in the western world.

That's not fair.

I've always thought it's a curse that the US and UK know about each other. In both countries we can be good examples against reform. In the US you don't want a system like the NHS, here even the slightest hint of moving to a (European) social insurance system invokes fears of an American system.

The NHS isn't, as we like to tell ourselves, the best system in the world. But it is relatively cheap and efficient, and universal. Different countries and societies will have different priorities but I think that moderate results for moderate spending is about where Britain is on healthcare policy. The other virtue the system has is that while it's extremely labyrinthine it's all internal, so for a patient it's really very simple which, I think, is why in international polls the UK tends to be most satisfied with effectiveness and cost. For a socialist system we don't have to fill in any forms.