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Started by Jacob, September 25, 2013, 12:59:55 PM

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What's the impact of Obamacare for you (and your family)? Assuming it doesn't get defunded or delayed, of course...

I live in a state that's embracing Obamacare and it looks like I'm set for cheaper and/or better healthcare.
9 (14.1%)
I live in a state that's embracing Obamacare and it looks like I'm going to be paying more and/or get worse coverage.
5 (7.8%)
I live in a state that's embracing Obamacare and it looks like I'm largely unaffected by Obamacare, other than the effects of the general political theatre.
6 (9.4%)
My state is embracing Obamacare, but I have no clue how it will impact me personally.
1 (1.6%)
I live in a state that's rejecting Obamacare and it looks like I'm set for cheaper and/or better healthcare.
0 (0%)
I live in a state that's rejecting Obamacare and it looks like I'm going to be paying more and/or get worse coverage.
1 (1.6%)
I live in a state that's rejecting Obamacare and it looks like I'm largely unaffected by Obamacare, other than the effects of the general political theatre.
7 (10.9%)
My state is rejecting Obamacare and I have no idea how Obamacare is going to impact me.
1 (1.6%)
The American health care system doesn't affect me, but I'm watching how the whole thing plays out with interest.
20 (31.3%)
The American health care system doesn't affect me and frankly I don't care.
8 (12.5%)
Some other option because the previous 10 were not enough...
6 (9.4%)

Total Members Voted: 63

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 28, 2013, 12:53:53 PM
11Bravo's going off the rails today.   :lol:



Certainly not. Just reveling in the Signature Turd of your boy.  :lmfao:

The debacle of Obamacare has just begun. Should measure nicely in the 2014 mid-terms. It will be a treat to watch Dems waffle and start think about they're own skins and re elections in their districts.

Any bets on a delay to the individual mandate?



"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on October 28, 2013, 01:01:07 PM
Certainly not. Just reveling in the Signature Turd of your boy.

So racist.  You should go back to your code words.

Barrister

Quote from: 11B4V on October 28, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 28, 2013, 12:41:22 PM
There was a 0% chance of a website of that scale, complexity, and load would roll out in the manner they designed without massive problems.

This should have been a graduated release, scaling up over time with a carefully managed release schedule driven by the technical requirements. Of course, that was politically impossible, so what we have is completely predictable and inevitable.
Seems like that could have been a good plan.

It often makes me wonder how these high paid government officials cant come up with a common sense plan like you just submitted.

Because the highly paid government officials are usually ignored in the final round of political horse-trading when the bill finally takes shape.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 28, 2013, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 28, 2013, 12:48:54 PM
Your statement just reinforces the stigma of the "Fourty Seven Percenters".

Keep spouting the party line Sparky

You should take your "small government" philosophy to heart, save the US taxpayer from that bloated deficit you hate so much, and resign.  :P

Civil Service believes in big Govmint. That's the reason I voted for Obama.

Get it right


QuotePretty funny coming from the very model of institutionalized welfare, a United States Government employee.  You're sucking it up from the deepest trough, piggie.

Dont hate the player. Hate the game. ;) :lol:
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: Barrister on October 28, 2013, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 28, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 28, 2013, 12:41:22 PM
There was a 0% chance of a website of that scale, complexity, and load would roll out in the manner they designed without massive problems.

This should have been a graduated release, scaling up over time with a carefully managed release schedule driven by the technical requirements. Of course, that was politically impossible, so what we have is completely predictable and inevitable.
Seems like that could have been a good plan.

It often makes me wonder how these high paid government officials cant come up with a common sense plan like you just submitted.

Because the highly paid government officials are usually ignored in the final round of political horse-trading when the bill finally takes shape.

Sadly
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on October 28, 2013, 12:59:23 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 28, 2013, 12:53:53 PM
11Bravo's going off the rails today.   :lol:

Must still be pissy they moved Megyn Kelly off days, so he misses her when he's working.   :P

He's always had difficulty making logical connections.

Nice try. You sign up yet for the free medicaid?
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Barrister

Quote from: 11B4V on October 28, 2013, 01:04:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 28, 2013, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 28, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 28, 2013, 12:41:22 PM
There was a 0% chance of a website of that scale, complexity, and load would roll out in the manner they designed without massive problems.

This should have been a graduated release, scaling up over time with a carefully managed release schedule driven by the technical requirements. Of course, that was politically impossible, so what we have is completely predictable and inevitable.
Seems like that could have been a good plan.

It often makes me wonder how these high paid government officials cant come up with a common sense plan like you just submitted.

Because the highly paid government officials are usually ignored in the final round of political horse-trading when the bill finally takes shape.

Sadly

Now I'm hardly in the policy branch, but I am inside the government, so it's always interesting to see what changes the two levels of government make that impact us in prosecutions.

Sometimes the people in policy put forward a proposal and the government follows it, and it's tremendously successful.  The system works.

Sometimes we get these odd proposals that nobody really asked for, but we thank them, we guess.

And sometimes we get changes that are horrifically awful because some genius in the minister's office thought it would be a good idea, but nobody ever thought to ask the experts.  In the spring budget for Alberta one of the lines was that the government 'would save money by cutting all funding for weekend jail sentences'.  It horrified everyone involved, because weekend sentences are in the criminal code and they HAVE to allow them, plus since weekend prisoners cost less than full-time prisoners the move would actually cost the government more.  Thankfully they quickly backtracked on that one.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Razgovory

Quote from: 11B4V on October 28, 2013, 01:05:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 28, 2013, 12:59:23 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 28, 2013, 12:53:53 PM
11Bravo's going off the rails today.   :lol:

Must still be pissy they moved Megyn Kelly off days, so he misses her when he's working.   :P

He's always had difficulty making logical connections.

Nice try. You sign up yet for the free medicaid?


Long, long ago.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: 11B4V on October 28, 2013, 01:01:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 28, 2013, 12:53:53 PM
11Bravo's going off the rails today.   :lol:



Certainly not. Just reveling in the Signature Turd of your boy.  :lmfao:

The debacle of Obamacare has just begun. Should measure nicely in the 2014 mid-terms. It will be a treat to watch Dems waffle and start think about they're own skins and re elections in their districts.

Any bets on a delay to the individual mandate?

Yes, you go ahead in revel in turds.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 28, 2013, 01:02:55 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 28, 2013, 01:01:07 PM
Certainly not. Just reveling in the Signature Turd of your boy.

So racist.  You should go back to your code words.

QuoteCiting website problems, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., advocates extending the open enrollment period for the health care law's insurance exchanges.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57609507/healthcare.gov-glitches-congress-is-demanding-answers/
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on October 28, 2013, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 28, 2013, 01:01:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 28, 2013, 12:53:53 PM
11Bravo's going off the rails today.   :lol:



Certainly not. Just reveling in the Signature Turd of your boy.  :lmfao:

The debacle of Obamacare has just begun. Should measure nicely in the 2014 mid-terms. It will be a treat to watch Dems waffle and start think about they're own skins and re elections in their districts.

Any bets on a delay to the individual mandate?

Yes, you go ahead in revel in turds.

2014
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Grey Fox

Hey 11, what is it you hate about the ACA?
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?