Obamacare and you

[Admiral Yi]

Check out the big brain on the Wigger.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Yes, PPO are the best choices. A typical scheme would be 80% coinsurance at PPO doctors, but if you choose to go out of the preferred providers it's only a 60% coinsurance. (Up to your OOP max obviously.) So you can go just about anywhere and get some level of service coverage.

[Malthus]

How much is Kaiser paying you to shill for them Biscuit?

Isn't his wife an MD? 

Kaiser provided him with a wife? 

[garbon]

Berkut said in his experience this wasn't the problem that CC says it is, and that CC may not have good information.
Berkut also said several times that he was relating HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

Aside from whatever CC has or hasn't said, is it fair to say that under the US system physician choice issue is an issue for some, while physician choice isn't an issue in Canada for any? 

Can everyone in Canada sign up to have the same GP?

[Jacob]

Can everyone in Canada sign up to have the same GP?

Much like Kaiser, Canadian health care provides you with a wife who's a GP or specialist if you so desire.

[Berkut]

Berkut said in his experience this wasn't the problem that CC says it is, and that CC may not have good information.
Berkut also said several times that he was relating HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

Aside from whatever CC has or hasn't said, is it fair to say that under the US system physician choice issue is an issue for some, while physician choice isn't an issue in Canada for any? 

Can everyone in Canada sign up to have the same GP?

Indeed. The biggest problem my wife has had hasn't been that the doctor she wants (she seems to change a lot more than I do) isn't available under our HMO, it is that they are not accepting new patients.

[Malthus]

Berkut said in his experience this wasn't the problem that CC says it is, and that CC may not have good information.
Berkut also said several times that he was relating HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

Aside from whatever CC has or hasn't said, is it fair to say that under the US system physician choice issue is an issue for some, while physician choice isn't an issue in Canada for any? 

Can everyone in Canada sign up to have the same GP?

He'd be pretty busy. 

But yeah, there is a genuine issue in Canada with physician availability. Particularly in rural places.

But even in cities, there are certain classes of care facing shortages - mostly, family physicians, but also some specialties.

One of the big critiques of a one-payor socialized system is that in many ways it replaces "money" with "connections" as the limiting factor for good care. Of course, those with connections are often the same as those with money ...

[Jacob]

Indeed. The biggest problem my wife has had hasn't been that the doctor she wants (she seems to change a lot more than I do) isn't available under our HMO, it is that they are not accepting new patients.

Yeah, that's the same here.

[Malthus]

Can everyone in Canada sign up to have the same GP?

Much like Kaiser, Canadian health care provides you with a wife who's a GP or specialist if you so desire.

Garbon with a wife? 

[Sheilbh]

The purpose of the gatekeeper is to regulate usage, not to price shop.

Maybe. But also medicine is an area that requires knowledge, skill and expertise. As much as regulating usage it's about stopping people being stupid based on what they've read in the health pages of Woman's Own. You've no more right to demand tests than you do to self-prescribe.

[Admiral Yi]

Maybe. But also medicine is an area that requires knowledge, skill and expertise. As much as regulating usage it's about stopping people being stupid based on what they've read in the health pages of Woman's Own. You've no more right to demand tests than you do to self-prescribe.

You just described regulating usage.

[Sheilbh]

You just described regulating usage.

Ok. That sounds very negative to me, which it isn't.

[Admiral Yi]

Ok. That sounds very negative to me, which it isn't.

Maybe you confused it with rationing.

[Sheilbh]

Maybe you confused it with rationing.

Nothing wrong with rationing - as an idea or the word

[mongers]

Can everyone in Canada sign up to have the same GP?

Much like Kaiser, Canadian health care provides you with a wife who's a GP or specialist if you so desire.