POTUS Debate II: The Empire Strikes Back at the Wrath of Electric Mittensaloo

[Jacob]

Weren't you the one who started a thread about it?

That's a pretty weak standard to employ.

[garbon]

http://www.caintv.com/ObamaMorefeistyperhapsbutjusta-584

Barack Obama knew he had to do something different last night than he did in the first debate, and he did. He acted indignant. He interrupted. He gave us the whole feisty routine that we had been told we would see.

But there's one thing he didn't do any better than he did in the first debate, and that was defend his record. His record is no better now than it was two weeks ago, so no matter how much differently he comports himself, the facts are still the facts.

For me, though, the defining moment was one of the last. After Mitt Romney talked about the need to change policies so we can attract more jobs and build businesses, President Obama railed against the notion of cutting government spending, or "investments" as he calls it, because this spending is what will lead to the founding of the next Apple or the next other great American company.

This was astounding! Barack Obama really believes that great American businesses are created because of government spending! My friends, this man's ignorance about business and job creation is unbelievable!

Mitt Romney had a simple but powerful rejoinder: Government doesn't create jobs. And moments later, Obama claimed to believe the same thing. But he has demonstrated for the past four years that he doesn't, because everything he does favors the heavy hand of government and treats the private-sector business community as if it's a bunch of criminals stealing from the poor.

Obama may have been more feisty this time, but he was just as wrong last night as he was in Denver, and as he's been for the past four years.

[merithyn]

I have officially entered the race to get a rise out of meri

There. You win!

[garbon]

That said it was pretty cute Cain's comment about welcoming Hillary under the bus.

Now they're throwing Hillary under the bus. It's pretty crowded under that bus, because Obama does not take responsibility when he messes up – and he messes up a lot.

[garbon]

Weren't you the one who started a thread about it?

That's a pretty weak standard to employ.

In honest, I only put you on as I didn't want to give the appearance of picking on Seedy.

[Jacob]

In honest, I only put you on as I didn't want to give the appearance of picking on Seedy.

I don't mind the company; Seedy's good people.

[The Brain]

In honest, I only put you on as I didn't want to give the appearance of picking on Seedy.

I don't mind the company; Seedy's good people.

The man is a waste of cat.

[CountDeMoney]

The man is a waste of cat.

Cat can't reach the fireplace switch;  I can.  In return, she keeps my nuts warm at night.  We have a relationship of utility.

[The Brain]

The man is a waste of cat.

Cat can't reach the fireplace switch;  I can.  In return, she keeps my nuts warm at night.  We have a relationship of utility.

Not too warm I hope. I haven't given up on you.

[CountDeMoney]

Don't you think about my cat that way.   

[lustindarkness]

[derspiess]

Only Seedy can think of his cat that way.

[derspiess]

Romney has expanded his Gallup lead to 6 (51 to 45).  From the debate, I expect Obama to eat into that lead by a at least a couple points.  But if Romney manages to stick around at 51 or 50 for the next week or so then Obama's got problems.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157817/election-2012-likely-voters-trial-heat-obama-romney.aspx

[DGuller]

I'm going to call bullshit on that 6 point lead for Romney.  More crap polls being cherrypicked.  Putting many different polls together isn't going to reduce the margin of error if you're going to take the most extreme result as representative; it's actually going to increase it past the stated 3% or whatever it is.

[derspiess]

Not sure how Gallup is a crap poll.  They have the largest sample size of all the polls (2700).