POTUS Debate II: The Empire Strikes Back at the Wrath of Electric Mittensaloo

Started by CountDeMoney, October 15, 2012, 08:17:36 PM

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Neil

Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
I didn't read Romney as saying that women should be at home. What I read it as was that women needed special treatment in order to be able to work at the level as men.
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Hush, you.  <_<
I'm just saying, have you ever worked with a woman?
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

garbon

Quote from: Jacob on October 17, 2012, 01:35:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 17, 2012, 01:32:36 PMThose who sell a canard get identified with it.

You're the one who brought it up, you canard-monger you.

Weren't you the one who started a thread about it? ;)
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

merithyn

Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:49:44 PM
I'm just saying, have you ever worked with a woman?

Yes, and men. There have been some of both genders that have required special accomodations for a variety of reasons.

And now that you've managed to troll me (Anger and Seedy are going to be annoyed that you got to me before they did), I'm done. :P
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

garbon

Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
I didn't read Romney as saying that women should be at home. What I read it as was that women needed special treatment in order to be able to work at the level as men.
...
Hush, you.  <_<
I'm just saying, have you ever worked with a woman?

Yes, my boss is a woman.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

CountDeMoney

Never had a problem working with or for women before (except for the long-forgotten Cpl. Reuters, if you long timers remember), but women that have to work with other women have my sincerest sympathies.


The Minsky Moment

The binders thing has taken off because it just sounds a little weird - the very idea of a "catalog" of women just doesn't call the right imagery to mind.   Every now and then Romney has a habit of expressing himself in a way that while not exactly wrong, sounds "off" - like the heights of the trees comment.

Mitt seems to be the kind of person that works hard to be master of his brief, in part because he does best when he can rely on his meticulous preparation, and isn't as comfortable talking off the cuff.  I get the impression he wasn't 100% prepared for that question.  Because the right way to deliver that answer would be something like:  When I was elected Governor of Massachusetts, I made it an immediate priority to identify the best and most qualified women in the State for appointment to senior cabinet positions.  Then cite to the UNY-Albany study. 

Instead he starts off by saying:

Quotehad the — the chance to pull together a Cabinet and all the applicants seemed to be men. And I — and I went to my staff, and I said, how come all the people for these jobs are — are all men?

Which if you think about it, is bizarre.  Senior cabinet positions aren't usually filled by solicitation of applications.  An incoming administration usually generates its own short list.  The idea of Romney just sitting back passively and waiting for applications to roll in doesn't make a lot of sense.  What really happened is that his staff had a short list and the short list had men on it because those were the people his staff put on the list.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Josephus

I just want to point out that when i was responsible for hiring interns, I always hired women.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

HVC

Quote from: garbon on October 17, 2012, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
I didn't read Romney as saying that women should be at home. What I read it as was that women needed special treatment in order to be able to work at the level as men.
...
Hush, you.  <_<
I'm just saying, have you ever worked with a woman?

Yes, my boss is a woman.
:console:
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

HVC

Quote from: Josephus on October 17, 2012, 02:13:16 PM
I just want to point out that when i was responsible for hiring interns, I always hired women.
young attractive women need experience too, I agree :D
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Neil

Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 17, 2012, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
I didn't read Romney as saying that women should be at home. What I read it as was that women needed special treatment in order to be able to work at the level as men.
...
Hush, you.  <_<
I'm just saying, have you ever worked with a woman?
Yes, my boss is a woman.
:console:
He's gay, so his boss is in a worse position than he is.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

garbon

Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 17, 2012, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
I didn't read Romney as saying that women should be at home. What I read it as was that women needed special treatment in order to be able to work at the level as men.
...
Hush, you.  <_<
I'm just saying, have you ever worked with a woman?

Yes, my boss is a woman.
:console:

I've no problem with it. She's pretty good. :)
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

HVC

Quote from: garbon on October 17, 2012, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 17, 2012, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2012, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
I didn't read Romney as saying that women should be at home. What I read it as was that women needed special treatment in order to be able to work at the level as men.
...
Hush, you.  <_<
I'm just saying, have you ever worked with a woman?

Yes, my boss is a woman.
:console:

I've no problem with it. She's pretty good. :)
you wouldn't settle for pretty good if she were a dude. See, Romney was right, we must coddle female employees.



I have officially entered the race to get a rise out of meri :P
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

garbon

Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2012, 02:21:51 PM
you wouldn't settle for pretty good if she were a dude. See, Romney was right, we must coddle female employees.

I have officially entered the race to get a rise out of meri :P

My first boss was a man and we saw how well that worked out.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Martinus