Hawaii verifies Obama birth records to Arizona

[Razgovory]

Abraham Lincoln did.

Wasn't he more rural?

Besides, he's tainted by some shitty movie.

The Young Mr. Lincoln was an excellent movie.

[derspiess]

It was confirmed to be a fact-checking error, and that Obama wasn't aware of it.

Don't you think an agency like that would let their clients take a look at their bio before they are published?  Not a huge deal to me either way, but I'd have to think that someone as image-conscious as Obama would have seen that at some point.

[Zoupa]

That is rather disappointing. I am perfectly capable of recognizing that I am not always right, and have changed my mind on many occasions on Languish.

Yeah? Examples?

[Jaron]

That is rather disappointing. I am perfectly capable of recognizing that I am not always right, and have changed my mind on many occasions on Languish.

Yeah? Examples?

Perhaps he will demonstrate by correcting himself and admitting he never changes his mind. I think the universe would blow up then.

[11B4V]

That is rather disappointing. I am perfectly capable of recognizing that I am not always right, and have changed my mind on many occasions on Languish.

Yeah? Examples?

CALL OUT

[Sheilbh]

He was a Constitutional Law scholar.  Professionally.

True.  And I think he's smart, but I've never thought he was some sort of genius or that his smarts were a big reason to vote for him.

[garbon]

That is rather disappointing. I am perfectly capable of recognizing that I am not always right, and have changed my mind on many occasions on Languish.

Yeah? Examples?

CALL OUT

I searched "sorry", "wrong" and "apologize". These were the only two that could be slightly characterized as somewhat apologetic. Most of the time, I've found that he uses "sorry" in a "I'm sorry that you are a dumb ass."

http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,2682.msg134775/topicseen.html#msg134775
http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,2687.msg136067/topicseen.html#msg136067

[Berkut]

That is rather disappointing. I am perfectly capable of recognizing that I am not always right, and have changed my mind on many occasions on Languish.

Yeah? Examples?

Went back and forth on who to vote for last time.

Recently just stated that I was giving up on every single Republican candidate in the race.

Those are two easy examples. If you want more, feel free to exercise the search button.

I will do the same, as soon as you, DG, Seedy, and say...Jacob all provide examples as well of changing your minds on some position on Languish.

[Gups]

They are examples of your own internal dialogue, not of changing your mind in response to an argument made by someone else.

[Berkut]

They are examples of your own internal dialogue, not of changing your mind in response to an argument made by someone else.

Oh? You know why I change my mind, and what influences it better than I?

Again, I will be happy to do the work to search for some actual threads as long as others are willing to do the same. If the ability to change one mind is such an indicator of intellectual flexibility, then I am sure those accusing me of lacking the same will have examples of them doing so as well.

*I* know I've reversed my position on occasion, and said so - if Zoupa, of all people, doesn't believe me, I can probably live with that.

[Jacob]

I will do the same, as soon as you, DG, Seedy, and say...Jacob all provide examples as well of changing your minds on some position on Languish.

I'm honoured to be included in your list. Maybe you should include Vinraith as well?

[derspiess]

Berkut definitely changed his mind on McCain, who had been his hero at one time.

I've seen him change his mind on other issues as more details develop, though unfortunately he usually changes it in the wrong direction

[Gups]

They are examples of your own internal dialogue, not of changing your mind in response to an argument made by someone else.

Oh? You know why I change my mind, and what influences it better than I?

You are right. I made the silly assumption that you would decide who to vote for on a muliplicity of factors and not solely by reading posts on Languish. My bad.

[Berkut]

I will do the same, as soon as you, DG, Seedy, and say...Jacob all provide examples as well of changing your minds on some position on Languish.

I'm honoured to be included in your list. Maybe you should include Vinraith as well?

I actually included you because I think you are an example of someone who everyone respects on both sides of the political divide...yet, I can't recall you specifically saying "You're right, I am changing my mind on this issue!" Which doesn't mean you don't change your mind, and that you are not flexible - just that it would be hard to come up with some kind of specific example on demand.

[Berkut]

They are examples of your own internal dialogue, not of changing your mind in response to an argument made by someone else.

Oh? You know why I change my mind, and what influences it better than I?

You are right. I made the silly assumption that you would decide who to vote for on a muliplicity of factors and not solely by reading posts on Languish. My bad.

It is not a binary issue. Of course I make decisions like that based on different factors. That will always be true though, on any issue. If someone wants an example of where I've changed my mind based on nothing but what I hear on Languish, I don't think I can come up with one, for that exact reason. Too much goes into any kind of choices like that. Languish is one of many inputs.

But the claim made was that I *never* change my mind, and am apparently somehow unusual in that respect compared to others on Languish who engage in these discussions. So my examples of me changing my mind are quite valid, even if they involve inputs from outside Languish.