Breaking News - Major Terrorist Attack In Oslo, Norway

[Martinus]

I disagree. Expecting the same standard from an elected politician and a journalist activist is simply silly. You could just as well say that Nome is much better than Bush, because Nome never ordered anyone to drop any bombs and started no wars. 

I'm comparing Nome's blaming of an entire political class for the attack to Bush's rather silly declaration that Islam is a religion of peace. Those are the apples I'm comparing.

And I'm saying that a politician (especially one who is also a head of state) takes a much greater responsibility for the words not just uttered by him but also his supporters than a single pundit.

A politician of the presidential rank simply will never say this kind of inflammatory things, and this has nothing to do with wisdom or tolerance - it is political marketing. The more extreme message is left to be uttered by people like Coulter or Beck (or Nome) and the objective is for the ordinary followers to get the message without it tarnishing the reputation of the politician directly.

[Martinus]

As  I see, Viking is only expecting the guy to act according to the behavior and values he poses to represent and demands on politicans. Is that really that outrageous?

I think it is silly. They serve a different purpose, their words carry a different weight. As I said, apples and oranges.

[Tamas]

As  I see, Viking is only expecting the guy to act according to the behavior and values he poses to represent and demands on politicans. Is that really that outrageous?

I think it is silly. They serve a different purpose, their words carry a different weight. As I said, apples and oranges.

So, a guy, whose PROFESSION is to write and say stuff, is absolutely free to preach water and drink wine? Is that what you say?

[Martinus]

Btw, do you guys have right wing anonymous idiots in your internets writing comments on news sites too, or is it a Polish phenomenon? Sometimes when I read what these people write under articles about this guy (my favourite is that he was a socialist like Hitler) I want to shoot myself.

[Tamas]

Btw, do you guys have right wing anonymous idiots in your internets writing comments on news sites too, or is it a Polish phenomenon? Sometimes when I read what these people write under articles about this guy (my favourite is that he was a socialist like Hitler) I want to shoot myself.

I have read a few guys pointing out how the killer looks like a Jew, making it "all too obvious" how he is a jew, part of the global conspiration 

Also a guy said the fact that he never visited Israel indicates he is an agent of Israel

Priceless

[Slargos]

Btw, do you guys have right wing anonymous idiots in your internets writing comments on news sites too, or is it a Polish phenomenon? Sometimes when I read what these people write under articles about this guy (my favourite is that he was a socialist like Hitler) I want to shoot myself.

I was going to say I wish you would go ahead and do it, but A) I have enough people reporting me to the police for death threats as is and B) I really don't. 

[DGuller]

Btw, do you guys have right wing anonymous idiots in your internets writing comments on news sites too, or is it a Polish phenomenon? Sometimes when I read what these people write under articles about this guy (my favourite is that he was a socialist like Hitler) I want to shoot myself.

Definitely not.  Unmoderated news site comment sections are almost always overwhelmingly right wing cesspools.  Some days, when I inadverently fail to stop reading the news page when the article ends, and keep going to the comments section, I start to think that comments sections in newspaper sites are a plot to discredit democracy.

[Admiral Yi]

And I'm saying that a politician (especially one who is also a head of state) takes a much greater responsibility for the words not just uttered by him but also his supporters than a single pundit.

A politician of the presidential rank simply will never say this kind of inflammatory things, and this has nothing to do with wisdom or tolerance - it is political marketing. The more extreme message is left to be uttered by people like Coulter or Beck (or Nome) and the objective is for the ordinary followers to get the message without it tarnishing the reputation of the politician directly.

Viking's objection seems to be that Nome's readers do *not* view him as a polemicist in the Coulter or Beck mold.

[Martinus]

And I'm saying that a politician (especially one who is also a head of state) takes a much greater responsibility for the words not just uttered by him but also his supporters than a single pundit.

A politician of the presidential rank simply will never say this kind of inflammatory things, and this has nothing to do with wisdom or tolerance - it is political marketing. The more extreme message is left to be uttered by people like Coulter or Beck (or Nome) and the objective is for the ordinary followers to get the message without it tarnishing the reputation of the politician directly.

Viking's objection seems to be that Nome's readers do *not* view him as a polemicist in the Coulter or Beck mold.

I don't think Beck's viewers/listeners view him that way either.

[Admiral Yi]

I don't think Beck's viewers/listeners view him that way either.

Agreed.  And now that we've established that Nome's readers are no better than Beck's viewers we can move on.

[Grallon]

Agreed.  And now that we've established that Nome's readers are no better than Beck's viewers we can move on.

G.

[Norgy]

As  I see, Viking is only expecting the guy to act according to the behavior and values he poses to represent and demands on politicans. Is that really that outrageous?

No. I agree with Viking. It's rare. But it happens.
Nome really made a fool of himself. Then again, he's been making a fool of himself punting beer as well.

[Razgovory]

I don't know why we named that town in Alaska after him.  Big mistake.

[Brazen]

Btw, do you guys have right wing anonymous idiots in your internets writing comments on news sites too, or is it a Polish phenomenon? Sometimes when I read what these people write under articles about this guy (my favourite is that he was a socialist like Hitler) I want to shoot myself.

That's the Daily Mail.

[Razgovory]

Btw, do you guys have right wing anonymous idiots in your internets writing comments on news sites too, or is it a Polish phenomenon? Sometimes when I read what these people write under articles about this guy (my favourite is that he was a socialist like Hitler) I want to shoot myself.

By all means, don't let us stop you.