TV/Movies Megathread

[celedhring]

Also, WANT:

[Admiral Yi]

... and sustenance.

You're speculating.  Every other posse we see engaged in violence except the grannies.

Well, plus the Flemish School.

[Syt]

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[crazy canuck]

... and sustenance.

You're speculating.  Every other posse we see engaged in violence except the grannies.

Well, plus the Flemish School.

What was the trap for?

[crazy canuck]

qwertee is selling a Mad Max shirt today: https://www.qwertee.com/

If a scientist wore that during a big media event would it be sufficiently feminist so as not to offend 

[Malthus]

The movie presents it as men being about war and domination, while women being about life.

The name "Imperator Furiosa" sounds like it's "about war and domination" to me. 

The idea about the Furiosa character is that she seeks redemption by helping those women escape. When she reaches the granny tribe we learn that she was one of them and a flowery powery girl until *something* happened. She's been damaged by the world of men and doesn't want the same to happen to those girls, that's why she tries to take them to the women tribe; this is also a way to get back to the innocent place before she became involved with Immortan Joe's tribe. Something she no longer can do since that ideal place has vanished.

But then, she finds this innocent place doesn't actually exist anymore, and her tribe (what's left of it) is busy preying on people.

Furiosa is just like Max (and the Grannies, and the War Boy): damaged people who have been forced by circumstances to do bad shit, but who are seeing a way to be better. It's a very big stretch to see this as an overtly 'feminist' thing, except insofar as, implicitly, it demonstrates equality between the men and women involved: both are damaged goods seeking redemption. 

[celedhring]

qwertee is selling a Mad Max shirt today: https://www.qwertee.com/

Tempted to bite. Are the shirts they sell of good quality?

[Malthus]

... and sustenance.

You're speculating.  Every other posse we see engaged in violence except the grannies.

Well, plus the Flemish School.

Huh? The grannies are excellent at violence. We see them engaged in lots of it.

They aren't violent to the heroes because they have an introduction - a clanswoman of theirs.

Two of the three groups chasing the heroes are only doing so out of some sort of contractual obligation to the Big Bad - as one wearily puts it, "all this over a family squabble?" 

[celedhring]

The movie presents it as men being about war and domination, while women being about life.

The name "Imperator Furiosa" sounds like it's "about war and domination" to me. 

The idea about the Furiosa character is that she seeks redemption by helping those women escape. When she reaches the granny tribe we learn that she was one of them and a flowery powery girl until *something* happened. She's been damaged by the world of men and doesn't want the same to happen to those girls, that's why she tries to take them to the women tribe; this is also a way to get back to the innocent place before she became involved with Immortan Joe's tribe. Something she no longer can do since that ideal place has vanished.

But then, she finds this innocent place doesn't actually exist anymore, and her tribe (what's left of it) is busy preying on people.

Furiosa is just like Max (and the Grannies, and the War Boy): damaged people who have been forced by circumstances to do bad shit, but who are seeing a way to be better. It's a very big stretch to see this as an overtly 'feminist' thing, except insofar as, implicitly, it demonstrates equality between the men and women involved: both are damaged goods seeking redemption.

End of the movie. [spoiler]Who are the ones that will rebuild society in a better way? Max is seen leaving, the Warboy has died. It's the women the ones who will do it.[/spoiler]

[Admiral Yi]

Huh? The grannies are excellent at violence. We see them engaged in lots of it.

Jeez Malthus, predatory violence.  We don't see the grannies engaging in any predatory violence.

[crazy canuck]

Huh? The grannies are excellent at violence. We see them engaged in lots of it.

Jeez Malthus, predatory violence.  We don't see the grannies engaging in any predatory violence.

For the third time, how do you explain the trap?

[Syt]

qwertee is selling a Mad Max shirt today: https://www.qwertee.com/

Tempted to bite. Are the shirts they sell of good quality?

They're decent. For €13.50 (including s&h) they're surprisingly sturdy. The first one I bought is still ok, though after 3 years the print starts to crack a bit. Though I had one or two come apart at a seem after a few washes, but the majority was fine.

[Malthus]

End of the movie. [spoiler]Who are the ones that will rebuild society in a better way? Max is seen leaving, the Warboy has died. It's the women the ones who will do it.[/spoiler]

More specifically, it will likely be Furiosa, with the help of the surviving wives and granny Klan. But that's just because Max is a wanderer, not a builder. I don't see that as a conclusion that women are "meant" to be builders, any more than it is a conclusion than men are "meant" to be wandering heroes, or to die in battle. It is, in fact, simply the luck of the draw.

Edit: hell, if having a wandering hero ride off into the sunset after putting down the big bad is a feminist trope, there are a surprising number of feminist Westerns out there ... 

[Admiral Yi]

For the third time, how do you explain the trap?

For the first time, I stopped responding to your posts about a year ago.

[Malthus]

Huh? The grannies are excellent at violence. We see them engaged in lots of it.

Jeez Malthus, predatory violence.  We don't see the grannies engaging in any predatory violence.

I can only second the CC question.

My 'take' was that the granny klan earned its stuff by trapping and killing others. You don't actually see it happen only because the heroes have a clanswoman along with them.