About those peaceful antifa protests...

[PDH]

As far as variation, I'm sure there is some, but how much crossover there is between the two "old school genders"?  Does the typical curve of hormonal level look like the first one, or the second one?

Stop saying gender when you mean biological sex.  There is nothing "old school" about two genders for all societies, even our gender roles changed over time - women performing previously male work, wearing male clothing, etc. these days.  There is a basic gene-based duality between biological sexes, with the genetic problems alluded to thrown in.

[11B4V]

Why not?

https://www.bjjee.com/articles/transgender-mma-fighter-breaks-female-opponents-skull-are-we-getting-too-politically-correct-with-reality/

Utter BS


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/02/25/transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-wins-second-texas-state-girls-championship/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.39d389f7fbe9


https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/06/transgender-freshman-sprinter-born-a-male-wins-two-girls-state-championships

A bit misrepresented in the reporting of the second one I've seen.  Odd you'd include it with the others since it's a case for the other pov.
The issue is its a FTM transgender person who due to conservative rules is forced to compete with women.
This being high school level there's no protections against doping.
Transgender men competing with men on this amateur level  is a bit less of a problem and should be allowed. It's the other way around and at top levels where things are iffy.
Seems wrong to utterly deny them access to sport though they do have a natural advantage.

Then compete as your true gender. Or don't compete at all.

The true gender of a trans woman is woman.

Hogwash.

So you're saying our BuddhaRhubarb here isn't a woman?

If the person identifies as such, no problem. Go into a women's sport, I call BS.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I find the idea of multiple genders liberating; I would like there to be so many that everyone is catered for.

Now as regards sex, apart from a few intersex people that is fairly immutable. When a man changes his gender his/her fundamental skeletal and muscular structure does not change; which is why I think women's sports (at least at the elite level) should be confined to cis-women.

[11B4V]

I find the idea of multiple genders liberating; I would like there to be so many that everyone is catered for.

Now as regards sex, apart from a few intersex people that is fairly immutable. When a man changes his gender his/her fundamental skeletal and muscular structure does not change; which is why I think women's sports (at least at the elite level) should be confined to cis-women.

IMO, any level.

[Admiral Yi]

I'm not good with bathrooms either.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I'm not good with bathrooms either.

The general rule is that if you miss the porcelain you should clear up after.

[11B4V]

I'm not good with bathrooms either.

Oh, that doesn't bother me.

[11B4V]

I'm not good with bathrooms either.

The general rule is that if you miss the porcelain you should clear up after.

They just have to learn to put the seat down...

[dps]

Does a Yi shit in the woods? 

[DGuller]

I'm not good with bathrooms either.

The general rule is that if you miss the porcelain you should clear up after.

[Razgovory]

Meh, I talked about this a couple years ago and had my head bitten off.

[Josquius]

I find the idea of multiple genders liberating; I would like there to be so many that everyone is catered for.

Now as regards sex, apart from a few intersex people that is fairly immutable. When a man changes his gender his/her fundamental skeletal and muscular structure does not change; which is why I think women's sports (at least at the elite level) should be confined to cis-women.

IMO, any level.

Thats just ridiculous though.
Why should an unsporty and very feminine girl in PE class be forced to play rugby with the boys?
Sounds like a recipe for trouble.
Just as clear that at the top level you shouldn't have trans women  competing in women's events is that at the casual level you should let people be with their official gender.

[11B4V]

I find the idea of multiple genders liberating; I would like there to be so many that everyone is catered for.

Now as regards sex, apart from a few intersex people that is fairly immutable. When a man changes his gender his/her fundamental skeletal and muscular structure does not change; which is why I think women's sports (at least at the elite level) should be confined to cis-women.

IMO, any level.

Thats just ridiculous though.
Why should an unsporty and very feminine girl in PE class be forced to play rugby with the boys?
Sounds like a recipe for trouble.
Just as clear that at the top level you shouldn't have trans women  competing in women's events is that at the casual level you should let people be with their official gender.

Who said force the a girl(above) to play any sport? Or force anyone to play any sport? Wtf are you talking about?

Trans women should not be allowed in any women's sport category at any level.
WNBA
Olympic anything
Collegiate anything
Female boxing/mma
Wrestling
CWHL
etc

[Josquius]

I find the idea of multiple genders liberating; I would like there to be so many that everyone is catered for.

Now as regards sex, apart from a few intersex people that is fairly immutable. When a man changes his gender his/her fundamental skeletal and muscular structure does not change; which is why I think women's sports (at least at the elite level) should be confined to cis-women.

IMO, any level.

Thats just ridiculous though.
Why should an unsporty and very feminine girl in PE class be forced to play rugby with the boys?
Sounds like a recipe for trouble.
Just as clear that at the top level you shouldn't have trans women  competing in women's events is that at the casual level you should let people be with their official gender.

Who said force the a girl(above) to play any sport? Or force anyone to play any sport? Wtf are you talking about?

Trans women should not be allowed in any women's sport category at any level.
WNBA
Olympic anything
Collegiate anything
Female boxing/mma
Wrestling
CWHL
etc

You're talking about a handful of cases here.
It's unlikely too many transsexuals will have the skill and ability to compete on an elite level for either gender.
In those cases where it is possible we've already established there is an issue with trans women.

Far more important is the ground level stuff. Not elite athletes winning competitions. But normal kids in PE class.

[Admiral Yi]

I can't tell what you're arguing for or against Squeeze.