Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (12%)
British - Leave
7 (7%)
Other European - Remain
21 (21%)
Other European - Leave
6 (6%)
ROTW - Remain
34 (34%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 98

mongers

'Let Boris Carry The Can'

I think the serious leadership candidates will sit out the contest, be happy if Boris wins and know the disasters to follow will be labelled as Boris's failures. Then two-three years down the line, they can run to replace him.

Of course I'm assuming most of the announced candidates are delusional and actually think they can pull off a successful bexit.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

garbon

Quote from: mongers on May 24, 2019, 04:23:33 PM
'Let Boris Carry The Can'

I think the serious leadership candidates will sit out the contest, be happy if Boris wins and know the disasters to follow will be labelled as Boris's failures. Then two-three years down the line, they can run to replace him.

Of course I'm assuming most of the announced candidates are delusional and actually think they can pull off a successful bexit.

So same place as last leadership contest? :D
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mongers

Quote from: garbon on May 24, 2019, 04:34:41 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 24, 2019, 04:23:33 PM
'Let Boris Carry The Can'

I think the serious leadership candidates will sit out the contest, be happy if Boris wins and know the disasters to follow will be labelled as Boris's failures. Then two-three years down the line, they can run to replace him.

Of course I'm assuming most of the announced candidates are delusional and actually think they can pull off a successful bexit.

So same place as last leadership contest? :D

:D

Indeed.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Josquius

Remember that bit about not wasting the extension?
No tory leader and a zombie pm till the end of July....
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Tamas

Quote from: Tyr on May 25, 2019, 12:58:27 AM
Remember that bit about not wasting the extension?
No tory leader and a zombie pm till the end of July....

It is incredible, if they do keep to that timeline.

New party leader around mid-July, means PM role handover is not done before say first week of August, then the new genius leader will need to form a cabinet, get briefed. That's easily middle/late August.

Then he/she will have to do the necessary "I am now going to Brussels to immediately get everything we ever wanted and drop everything we don't want" round, where he/she'll be slapped around, and will have to come back and start working on getting May's original deal accepted. We are now well into September.

So basically, it will be around September by the time we get to the point we were at last week.

Iormlund

Weiss and Benioff should be taking notes. This is a great start for the new Brexit season.

Syt

I see this chap is throwing his hat into the ring? He looks mildly unhinged.

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Tonitrus

Quote from: Syt on May 25, 2019, 06:03:49 AM
I see this chap is throwing his hat into the ring? He looks mildly unhinged.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTkLoekm_0

Syt

He looks like Guy Smiley from Sesame Street.

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Savonarola

Quote from: Tonitrus on May 25, 2019, 06:42:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTkLoekm_0

:lol:

That's great.  Anyone who is that informed about the fretful porpetine is okay with me.  :thumbsup:
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mongers

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Richard Hakluyt

I would imagine that he doesn't expect to win; but is hoping to get support that he can use to stop Johnson and get someone more unifying in as leader. Johnson will need the solid support of something like a third of the Tory mps to get to the final stage (the vote by party members) which he will walk. But Johnson is unpopular with Tory mps; as one of them remarked "..people like Boris, until they get to know him...".

Maladict

Quote from: Syt on May 25, 2019, 06:03:49 AM
I see this chap is throwing his hat into the ring? He looks mildly unhinged.



His books are excellent though, especially The Places Inbetween about his solo walk across Afghanistan in 2002.