Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Josquius]

I'm not sure how that works legally though. As I understood it the letter must be presented in a European council meeting and the only people who can attend there are the pm or the Queen.

[Barrister]

Delighted to hear that there's now a filing in Scotland called a nobile officium order, or as it's called in short hand a "nob off" order against Boris Johnson

Apparently it's an equitable jurisdiction in Scots law for the Court to step in so in this case if Johnson doesn't send the letter as required by an Act of Parliament, then the Court of Session steps in and sends it "on behalf of the Prime Minister".

Sounds like the writ of mandamus, though with a less amusing name to be sure.

[Sheilbh]

Delighted to hear that there's now a filing in Scotland called a nobile officium order, or as it's called in short hand a "nob off" order against Boris Johnson

Apparently it's an equitable jurisdiction in Scots law for the Court to step in so in this case if Johnson doesn't send the letter as required by an Act of Parliament, then the Court of Session steps in and sends it "on behalf of the Prime Minister".

Sounds like the writ of mandamus, though with a less amusing name to be sure.

Fair. We've renamed mandamus a mandatory order in our ongoing modernisation

I think the difference is that still relies on Johnson fulfiling the order or facing contempt charges. From my understanding under the Scots nobile officium (which is a lot wider than just this power) if someone is legally bound to sign a document, but can't or won't, the court will basically step into their shoes and sign it for them. Inevitably it mainly came up in trusts, but there's a few examples of recalcitrant Sherrifs etc.

In terms of delivery civil servants can't break or frustrate the law, so if they have a legally binding letter they can deliver it.

Edit: No idea of the likelihood of success mind and mainly amused by the name.

[Duque de Bragança]

Delighted to hear that there's now a filing in Scotland called a nobile officium order, or as it's called in short hand a "nob off" order against Boris Johnson

Apparently it's an equitable jurisdiction in Scots law for the Court to step in so in this case if Johnson doesn't send the letter as required by an Act of Parliament, then the Court of Session steps in and sends it "on behalf of the Prime Minister".

Sounds like the writ of mandamus, though with a less amusing name to be sure.

Fair. We've renamed mandamus a mandatory order in our ongoing modernisation

Edit: No idea of the likelihood of success mind and mainly amused by the name.

We is perfect, that's the first plural person of mando, mandas, mandare. Gave mandatory too 

[The Brain]

A country where other actors speak for the government doesn't sound like a reliable partner to work with.

[Sheilbh]

British politics is in a very dark place #386:


From Manchester where the Tories are holding their conference.

[celedhring]

Heh, we get those in Catalonia all the time. Fun times.

When did citizens become enemies? It's such a downward spiral of divisiveness everywhere you look.

[Josquius]

Well....I'm sure I posted something here last night but its not here....which suggests something went wrong and its in the wrong thread

[Sheilbh]

Yeah. Might be going the full Gough Whitlam!

Although given the multi-scandals hitting Johnson (who could've foreseen it?!) I wouldn't be that surprised if he didn't last until 31 October.

[Richard Hakluyt]

The opposition parties need to get their alternative government organised if a dismissal is imminent/possible.

[HVC]

Who are these 130k people?

[Josquius]

If this whole thing falls apart because Corbyn insists on being PM/the lib dems don't like Corbyn....

[Sheilbh]

They also need the votes of the 21 ex-Tories. Who are unlikely to back Corbyn.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Who are these 130k people?

It is an estimate of premature deaths caused by cutbacks in public services caused by austerity measures.

[Valmy]

Heh, we get those in Catalonia all the time. Fun times.

When did citizens become enemies? It's such a downward spiral of divisiveness everywhere you look.

Yeah this is the step I just cannot take.

I don't hate my opponents but man it just makes me so sad and I feel so hopeless about the extent that everybody hates each other. It just seems unlikely to end well.