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Sheilbh

Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2021, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 28, 2021, 03:45:09 PM
Y'all ignored my post but I'm doubling down. https://www.fratantonidesign.com/blog/why-you-should-consider-having-a-second-kitchen

The pictures alone that go along with your article have my even more convinced this is only a trend for the very rich.
It was a mini-scandal for Ed Miliband when he filmed a piece about him and his family in his second kitchen.

It was such a small, austere kitchen in a £2 million house that people smelled a rat and eventually Miliband was forced to admit it was a small upstairs kitchenette, not their main kitchen. But actually they used the kitchenette more.

The Tories just attacked him as "two kitchens" (a reference to former Labour Deputy PM who had to Jaguars and was, inevitbaly, "two jags").
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The Brain

Didn't Ed Miliband once eat a sandwich? Or was that someone else?
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Sheilbh

Quote from: The Brain on April 28, 2021, 03:59:26 PM
Didn't Ed Miliband once eat a sandwich? Or was that someone else?
:lol: Yeah but he ate it weirdly.
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Barrister

BY the way it's not unheard of to have a second kitchenette as part of a granny or in-law suite in a multi-generational home, but that's not really the trend GF is talking about.
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Barrister

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 28, 2021, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: The Brain on April 28, 2021, 03:59:26 PM
Didn't Ed Miliband once eat a sandwich? Or was that someone else?
:lol: Yeah but he ate it weirdly.

I just typed "Ed Miliband" into google and the very first auto-complete suggested was "... sandwich" :lol:
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Threviel

I'm thinking of building a secondary kitchen. When I was a kid we had a bars with what was called a brewing house. It was a simple kitchen of the style that once were used for brewing. It was quite big and it had a real baking oven, the women of the extended family gathered there a few times a year to bake bread together.

I want to build that kind of secondary kitchen, a rough area for rough cooking and brewing and the stuff that can take days and you don't want in the fancy kitchen inside the house.

Grey Fox

Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2021, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 28, 2021, 03:45:09 PM
Y'all ignored my post but I'm doubling down. https://www.fratantonidesign.com/blog/why-you-should-consider-having-a-second-kitchen

The pictures alone that go along with your article have my even more convinced this is only a trend for the very rich.

That's how closed plan houses started and how open plan houses also started. With the very rich and then trickled down to everyone over a 100 years.
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Barrister

Quote from: Grey Fox on April 28, 2021, 04:15:55 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2021, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 28, 2021, 03:45:09 PM
Y'all ignored my post but I'm doubling down. https://www.fratantonidesign.com/blog/why-you-should-consider-having-a-second-kitchen

The pictures alone that go along with your article have my even more convinced this is only a trend for the very rich.

That's how closed plan houses started and how open plan houses also started. With the very rich and then trickled down to everyone over a 100 years.

Maybe.

But for every trend that trickled down from the rich to the wider population, there are dozens of trends that did not.

Reading your article the selling point of the second kitchen is to use as a prep area, and maybe some extra storage.  So you can leave all the dirty dishes in your prep kitchen and have a glamerous dinner party out of your main kitchen.  That seems like a pretty niche use.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

DGuller

Quote from: Jacob on April 28, 2021, 03:45:46 PM
You'll want to search for "Danish TV children normal bodies" or some such.
A day late and a dollar short, but thanks.  I actually got a special Google message in my search results, giving me instructions on how to report child pornography.  :Embarrass:  I hope Google wasn't required to do any reporting on its end.

mongers

Quote from: The Brain on April 28, 2021, 09:44:04 AM
I think open hearth longhouses will be back in a big way.

Did they ever go away?  :pirate
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The Brain

Quote from: mongers on April 28, 2021, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: The Brain on April 28, 2021, 09:44:04 AM
I think open hearth longhouses will be back in a big way.

Did they ever go away?  :pirate

Well you live in the land of fake fireplaces, the last trembling echo of a more heroic age.
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Grey Fox

Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2021, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 28, 2021, 04:15:55 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2021, 03:49:29 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 28, 2021, 03:45:09 PM
Y'all ignored my post but I'm doubling down. https://www.fratantonidesign.com/blog/why-you-should-consider-having-a-second-kitchen

The pictures alone that go along with your article have my even more convinced this is only a trend for the very rich.

That's how closed plan houses started and how open plan houses also started. With the very rich and then trickled down to everyone over a 100 years.

Maybe.

But for every trend that trickled down from the rich to the wider population, there are dozens of trends that did not.

Reading your article the selling point of the second kitchen is to use as a prep area, and maybe some extra storage.  So you can leave all the dirty dishes in your prep kitchen and have a glamerous dinner party out of your main kitchen.  That seems like a pretty niche use.

Right. But I remember reading a couple years ago a theory by architecture bloggers how the 2nd kitchen leads into the resurgence of closed plan houses since most people will never have the room for a 2nd kitchen. I found the argument compelling.
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Syt

Quote from: Tamas on April 28, 2021, 03:46:13 PM
John Tiller, whom the grognards will surely know as his 90s engine is still the basis for a myriad of counter-pushing micro-heavy PC wargames, has passed away:

https://georgiacremation.com/obituary/john-albert-tiller/?fbclid=IwAR0QvgTAjAcco3M-aNpGCypQ6buhM2Xx7uKelyghaX1Y23y0ez9520b86sw

Whoa
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Syt

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/29/parking-mad-uk-man-completes-mission-to-park-in-every-spot-at-local-supermarket

QuoteParking mad: UK man completes mission to park in every spot at local supermarket

Gareth Wild finished his 'magnum opus' by filling the last of 211 spots in the parking lot of Sainsbury's in Bromley

A man has completed a six-year challenge to park in every car parking space at his local Sainsbury's.

Gareth Wild, 39, from Bromley, south-east London, said he decided to take on the challenge after noticing his preference for certain spots.

"For the last six years I've kept a spreadsheet listing every parking spot I've used at the local supermarket in a bid to park in them all," he tweeted. "This week I completed my Magnum Opus!"

"It kind of feels like the old Panini sticker albums, but a really boring version of it," the production director told the PA news agency.

"There's only so many parking spaces, why not try and get them all? "It's a collector's thing I suppose."

What followed was a thorough mapping of the 211 spots available to him on his weekly shop – with disability spaces and motorcycle bays excluded – dividing the spaces into categories A-F.

Wild completed his challenge on 24 April by slotting his car into F20, which he described as "a pig to get in". He added: "I don't want to make out this was too big a deal, but there was a moment of elation."

People responded to his thread detailing the challenge with questions including what best space in the car park was.

"It turns out there's a lot of questions about car parks," he said. "The best space is ... I mean comfortably you've got to be looking at C1. C1 is just gold dust.

"The moment you come in through the gates it's the first thing you really sort of see as a space."

Wild said his wife is "always really supportive" while daughter Aubrey, four, regularly joins him on parking missions.

"It sort of became a thing that we would do - having her along is a bit like daddy daughter time, you know?"

On Twitter, Wild said that a Lidl close to where he lives has the potential for a repeat attempt. He also described car parks as "a good snapshot of English life".

"You get all sorts of people coming in and mingling," he said. "Some of them park like arseholes, some of them just obey the rules and follow the signs.

"I just like being out and about and seeing those people."






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I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Josquius

Fascinating what some people can find enjoyment in.
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