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Started by Korea, March 10, 2009, 06:24:26 AM

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Liep

Getting a lot of press coverage lately. I fondly remember the days where we'd only get mentioned when the yearly happiest people report came out.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/05/edward-snowden-us-government-jet-wait-copenhagen-denmark
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DGuller

Quote from: alfred russel on February 05, 2016, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2016, 04:19:37 AM
It's a different language, with a different vocabulary.  Just because many Ukrainians, especially in government, have a difficulty speaking the language without heavily and often comically mixing it with Russian doesn't mean the languages are similar.  I for one cannot understand Ukrainian anymore, not any better than Polish anyway.

So somewhere along the way you stopped being Ukrainian and became Russian?

Sounds similar to the process in Crimea and Donetsk, and in not too long Kiev and then Galacia.
:mad: My family was always Russian-speaking.  I was able to speak Ukrainian when I was living there, but I forgot it within a year of moving to US.

celedhring

Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on February 05, 2016, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2016, 04:19:37 AM
It's a different language, with a different vocabulary.  Just because many Ukrainians, especially in government, have a difficulty speaking the language without heavily and often comically mixing it with Russian doesn't mean the languages are similar.  I for one cannot understand Ukrainian anymore, not any better than Polish anyway.

So somewhere along the way you stopped being Ukrainian and became Russian?

Sounds similar to the process in Crimea and Donetsk, and in not too long Kiev and then Galacia.
:mad: My family was always Russian-speaking.  I was able to speak Ukrainian when I was living there, but I forgot it within a year of moving to US.

How old were you at that time? Just curious.

Syt

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DGuller

Quote from: celedhring on February 05, 2016, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on February 05, 2016, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2016, 04:19:37 AM
It's a different language, with a different vocabulary.  Just because many Ukrainians, especially in government, have a difficulty speaking the language without heavily and often comically mixing it with Russian doesn't mean the languages are similar.  I for one cannot understand Ukrainian anymore, not any better than Polish anyway.

So somewhere along the way you stopped being Ukrainian and became Russian?

Sounds similar to the process in Crimea and Donetsk, and in not too long Kiev and then Galacia.
:mad: My family was always Russian-speaking.  I was able to speak Ukrainian when I was living there, but I forgot it within a year of moving to US.

How old were you at that time? Just curious.
I was 12 when we moved to US.

Razgovory

Must be weird to watch your country die.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Malthus

Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2016, 02:00:41 PM
Must be weird to watch your country die.

He lives in New Jersey. He's used to that.  :P
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alfred russel

Quote from: Malthus on February 05, 2016, 02:04:20 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2016, 02:00:41 PM
Must be weird to watch your country die.

He lives in New Jersey. He's used to that.  :P

And he already saw the USSR die.
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DGuller

Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2016, 02:00:41 PM
Must be weird to watch your country die.
It's not going to die any time soon.  Putin got small chunks, but galvanized the rest of Ukraine against Russia.  If anything, he gave it a new lease on life.  Russia was slowly culturally absorbing Ukraine and subverting its government, before Maidan and Putin's retaliation wiped all that work away.  But while Ukraine may not die, it could very well remain in a persistent vegetative state due to oligarchs whose corruption is nothing short of treason.

Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2016, 02:40:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2016, 02:00:41 PM
Must be weird to watch your country die.
It's not going to die any time soon.  Putin got small chunks, but galvanized the rest of Ukraine against Russia.  If anything, he gave it a new lease on life.  Russia was slowly culturally absorbing Ukraine and subverting its government, before Maidan and Putin's retaliation wiped all that work away.  But while Ukraine may not die, it could very well remain in a persistent vegetative state due to oligarchs whose corruption is nothing short of treason.

I sorta meant the previous country dying.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

His previous country didn't die, it just lost weight.
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Syt

Parents play hide & seek with their toddler and strap a GroPro camera to his head:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o27tIdYggY0

:D
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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barkdreg

Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2016, 02:40:11 PM
It's not going to die any time soon.  Putin got small chunks, but galvanized the rest of Ukraine against Russia.  If anything, he gave it a new lease on life.  Russia was slowly culturally absorbing Ukraine and subverting its government, before Maidan and Putin's retaliation wiped all that work away.  But while Ukraine may not die, it could very well remain in a persistent vegetative state due to oligarchs whose corruption is nothing short of treason.

Indeed. Met quite a few Russian speaking Ukrainians, descended from Russians, that hated the Russians. Quite strange.

The Brain

Quote from: barkdreg on February 06, 2016, 05:44:12 AM
Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2016, 02:40:11 PM
It's not going to die any time soon.  Putin got small chunks, but galvanized the rest of Ukraine against Russia.  If anything, he gave it a new lease on life.  Russia was slowly culturally absorbing Ukraine and subverting its government, before Maidan and Putin's retaliation wiped all that work away.  But while Ukraine may not die, it could very well remain in a persistent vegetative state due to oligarchs whose corruption is nothing short of treason.

Indeed. Met quite a few Russian speaking Ukrainians, descended from Russians, that hated the Russians. Quite strange.

Russians being racist? What a shocker.
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