Jesus H. LeMay Christ: USAF restricts F16s from engaging modern opponents

Started by CountDeMoney, November 21, 2014, 05:31:26 PM

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CountDeMoney

QuoteAmerican F-16s Aren't Supposed to Dogfight MiG-29s and Su-27s
2012 Air Combat Command policy limited jets' missions

War Is Boring
Written by David Axe

Automatic budget sequestration cut deeply into the U.S. Air Force's training in 2012. Air Combat Command got just $3,1 billion—three-quarters of what it needed to fully train the thousands of pilots flying the command's 1,600 F-15, F-16 and F-22 fighters, A-10 attack jets and B-1 bombers.

So the command did something radical—and with far-reaching consequences as American air power retools for fighting high-tech foes following more than decade bombing insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Air Combat Command stripped certain airplanes of many of their missions, thus cutting back on the number of flight hours a particular pilot needed to be officially war-ready. Air-to-air dogfighting and low-altitude maneuvering suddenly became much rarer skills.

Perhaps most interestingly, the command essentially barred F-16s—at a thousand strong, America's most numerous fighter—from engaging any enemy jet newer than a 1970s-vintage MiG-23.

The mission cuts originated in a May 2012 conversation between four generals—ACC boss Mike Hostage, his operations director Charles Lyon, Donald Hoffman from Air Force Materiel Command and Air Mobility Command's Raymond Johns.

Hoffman asked Hostage whether, in light of sequestration cuts, the Air Force could finally dispose of its obsolete LANTIRN infrared navigation pods and free up the related maintenance funds.

"From this initial question, a broader question emerged," Air Combat Command recalls in its official history for 2012, a heavily-redacted copy of which War Is Boring obtained through the Freedom of Information Act.

Lyon proceeded to ask the generals in charge of numbered air forces—each of which usually includes several wings and potentially hundreds of planes—which "systems, skills and tactics" they though were no longer important. "For example, low-altitude weapon-delivery or low-level navigation."

"How good do B-1 aircrews need to be at running around in formation at low altitude?" ACC vice commander Gen. William Rew asked. "They can do it, it's challenging and it's hard to do well. But it may not be tactically relevant."

Based on the feedback, Air Combat Command narrowed the missions it assigns to many planes—and by extension the flying hours pilots spend preparing for those mission.

When it all shook out, Air Combat Command's roughly 60 B-1 bombers mostly stopped flying low-level attacks—and the command's hundreds of F-16s gave up a lot of their dogfighting responsibilities.

Block 50 pioneers

The idea of changing missions to reduce training and thus save money had a precedent in Air Combat Command, the official history explains. Starting in 2011, Rew advocated reducing close-air-support training for pilots of the latest Block 50 F-16.

In Iraq and Afghanistan, Air Force fighters and bombers were spending most of their time flying slow circles at medium altitude, scanning for insurgents and bombing them with the help of controllers on the ground.

Rew, himself a former Block 50 pilot, explained that his version of the F-16 is wasted on this kind of close air support. The "Wild Weasel" Block 50s specialize in locating enemy air defenses with radar-detecting sensor pods—then destroying them with special radar-homing missiles.

"Pilots could not train to be good at everything," the history points out. And since no other planes could handle the Wild Weasel mission, the Block 50 crews should spend less time prepping for low-intensity close air support and more time training to escort U.S. planes through heavily-defended enemy territory, Rew argued.

Now, the Block 50 F-16s' mission shift—away from close air support and toward defense-suppression—also demanded their pilots spend at least some time training for air-to-air dogfighting. "The Block 50 F-16 and its pilots were unique in their capacity to serve as a dual-role escort over enemy territory in defense against ground-based and airborne threats," the history explains.

But the brass only wanted the 1990s-vintage Block 50s tangling with "second- and third-generation adversaries"—meaning 50-year-old MiG-21 designs and MiG-23s from 1970s, respectively. Apparently, more modern MiG-29s and Su-27s were too dangerous for the Block 50s, if the American planes' pilots were mostly focusing their training on attacking defenses on the ground.

Instead, ACC's F-15Cs and F-22s would fly ahead to fight the MiG-29s and Su-27s. Based on that assumption, the generals also dialed back air-to-air training for F-15E fighter-bombers and older Block 30 and Block 40 F-16s.

"This particular effort did not seek to eliminate air-to-air training altogether," the history notes. "Rather, the initiative strove for the proper mix of air-to-air and air-to-ground training."

Meanwhile, the ACC brass consigned the B-1s to high altitude, reducing the need to train the bombers' crews for risky low-level flying. But weirdly, bombers are usually especially vulnerable to enemy defenses when they fly high and make themselves more visible.

Likewise, in a high-intensity war, F-16 pilots could probably expect to encounter plenty of MiG-29s, Su-27s or similar fighters—whether or not the fliers had trained to battle these types.

The mission shifts might have saved the Air Force some money, but it's not entirely clear all the shifts also helped the flying branch prepare for high-tech combat.

The B-1 was designed for NOE flying, goddammit.

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grumbler

In the era of JDAM and SLAM, the old NOE tactics are obsolete and unnecessarily risky.  Good to see someone in the Chair Force start to recognize that sacred cows really aren't so sacred.  Training pilots to perform Yesterday's Missions makes them crappier than they need be at Today's Missions.
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Ideologue

How much does our SSBN force cost? Seems like that should be equal to the defense budget.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on November 21, 2014, 06:39:16 PM
In the era of JDAM and SLAM, the old NOE tactics are obsolete and unnecessarily risky.  Good to see someone in the Chair Force start to recognize that sacred cows really aren't so sacred.  Training pilots to perform Yesterday's Missions makes them crappier than they need be at Today's Missions.

Bah.  There will always be a need to train pilots for NOE just to deliver that extra special package right down Karl Marx Boulevard.  BYE BYE BABY BABUSHKAS

Warspite

Is this real or is this the old 'We had to cancel this Absolutely Vital program in its entirety with no sense of proportion what soever that will just so happen to get the public frothing at the mouth, because budget cuts' PR trick of militaries the world over?
" SIR – I must commend you on some of your recent obituaries. I was delighted to read of the deaths of Foday Sankoh (August 9th), and Uday and Qusay Hussein (July 26th). Do you take requests? "

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grumbler

Quote from: Warspite on November 21, 2014, 08:34:06 PM
Is this real or is this the old 'We had to cancel this Absolutely Vital program in its entirety with no sense of proportion what soever that will just so happen to get the public frothing at the mouth, because budget cuts' PR trick of militaries the world over?
Did you mean to post this in this thread?  Because it seems to have no bearing on the topic. What "Absolutely Vital" program that has been "cancell[ed].. in its entirety" are you referring to?
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Josquius

Sounds pretty sensible to me. Training pilots for dog fighting when all they're doing is bombing villages full of people who've never even seen a plane (except the last ones to bomb them) makes no sense.
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Warspite

Quote from: grumbler on November 22, 2014, 07:55:40 AM
Quote from: Warspite on November 21, 2014, 08:34:06 PM
Is this real or is this the old 'We had to cancel this Absolutely Vital program in its entirety with no sense of proportion what soever that will just so happen to get the public frothing at the mouth, because budget cuts' PR trick of militaries the world over?
Did you mean to post this in this thread?  Because it seems to have no bearing on the topic. What "Absolutely Vital" program that has been "cancell[ed].. in its entirety" are you referring to?

The training programmes mentioned in the OP. Been at the bottle again, have we?
" SIR – I must commend you on some of your recent obituaries. I was delighted to read of the deaths of Foday Sankoh (August 9th), and Uday and Qusay Hussein (July 26th). Do you take requests? "

OVO JE SRBIJA
BUDALO, OVO JE POSTA

grumbler

Quote from: Warspite on November 22, 2014, 08:59:54 AM
Did you mean to post this in this thread?  Because it seems to have no bearing on the topic. What "Absolutely Vital" program that has been "cancell[ed].. in its entirety" are you referring to?

The training programmes mentioned in the OP. Been at the bottle again, have we? [/quote]

Too Raz for me.  I'm done.
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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

mongers

Quote from: Razgovory on November 22, 2014, 11:59:00 AM
Sweet, I'm winning arguments before I even get involved!

:cool:

Yeah, pretty neat tick, but don't you miss having to dissect a sentence word by word?

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Razgovory

Quote from: mongers on November 22, 2014, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 22, 2014, 11:59:00 AM
Sweet, I'm winning arguments before I even get involved!

:cool:

Yeah, pretty neat tick, but don't you miss having to dissect a sentence word by word?

With Grumbler it can be tiresome.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017