Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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Tamas

I am still kind of processing that we are right back to the pre-1945 order of things in Europe.

Tamas

Quote from: Threviel on February 25, 2022, 04:53:08 AM
Quote from: Tamas on February 25, 2022, 04:42:33 AM
https://twitter.com/UkraineLive2022/status/1497106587877584896

This guy reporting he saw Ukrainian men being force conscripted before reaching the Polish border. I am conflicted about this.

Such is war. For the Ukrainian state this is a total war so all eligible citizens must join the fight. I'm not conflicted, it is the correct move, but it is heart breaking that it must come to this.

Yeah, agreed.

Syt



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Tamas


Tamas

I haven't had a proper night's sleep in days. The familiar East European scenery just drives home even further the proximity of this to my family and the ramifications of what's happening.

Sheilbh

I've heard of disaster capitalist, but bloody hell :bleeding:
Let's bomb Russia!

The Larch


garbon

Quote from: Tamas on February 25, 2022, 05:07:24 AM
I haven't had a proper night's sleep in days. The familiar East European scenery just drives home even further the proximity of this to my family and the ramifications of what's happening.

:( :hug:
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Tamas

Sky News showing Lavrov's press conference. I am not sure a platform should be given to a war criminal.

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Josquius

Quote from: Tamas on February 25, 2022, 04:43:26 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 25, 2022, 04:41:57 AM
Quote from: mongers on February 24, 2022, 08:13:49 PM
Somewhat disappointed that BBC News channel is 'branding' it as "the Russia-Ukraine Conflict."

Whereas Al Jazeera News has moved from "Russian - Ukrainian Crisis" to "Russia Attacks Ukraine", that's from yesterday, the start of the invasion.

Why dissapointed? It's a conflict no?

It would be better to find a title that makes it clear it is Russia's sole responsibility. I don't think you'd be happy to call WW2 the "Germany-Britain Conflict"

WW2 is a bit different in being a world war.
But you do get eg the sino-Japanese wars, the second of which was very much Japan's doing.
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Threviel

Reports of Russian columns destroyed by Turkish built UAVs.

Josquius

Quote from: Threviel on February 25, 2022, 05:36:02 AM
Reports of Russian columns destroyed by Turkish built UAVs.
Great. Hope this is true, that did seem to be the key thing Ukraine needed (as well as AA)
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Tyr on February 25, 2022, 05:34:41 AM
Quote from: Tamas on February 25, 2022, 04:43:26 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 25, 2022, 04:41:57 AM
Quote from: mongers on February 24, 2022, 08:13:49 PM
Somewhat disappointed that BBC News channel is 'branding' it as "the Russia-Ukraine Conflict."

Whereas Al Jazeera News has moved from "Russian - Ukrainian Crisis" to "Russia Attacks Ukraine", that's from yesterday, the start of the invasion.

Why dissapointed? It's a conflict no?

It would be better to find a title that makes it clear it is Russia's sole responsibility. I don't think you'd be happy to call WW2 the "Germany-Britain Conflict"

WW2 is a bit different in being a world war.
But you do get eg the sino-Japanese wars, the second of which was very much Japan's doing.

"World War II" doesn't specify German culpability either.
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