Obamacare and you

[Berkut]

Nobody cares about the impact of Obamacare on me?

[Jacob]

Open enrollment starting in a few weeks.

Employee contribution towards our health care plan at work for myself+family is going from $250/month for 2013 to $171/month for 2014.

Sounds like a win

[Ed Anger]

Nobody cares about the impact of Obamacare on me?

You're rich.

[Berkut]

Open enrollment starting in a few weeks.

Employee contribution towards our health care plan at work for myself+family is going from $250/month for 2013 to $171/month for 2014.

Sounds like a win

They actually said that this was the first year in a long time when the cost of the health care plan was successfully held steady, so they passed some of the savings against their expected increase back to the employees.

Crazy Euro companies.

They also stated that if we choose to forgo health insurance, they would refund some of the savings back to us. If I give up my Family health care plan, in addition to saving $3000 or so a year that I kick in towards the cost, they would refund me an additional $6000/year.

I think my wife needs to go find a job with health care...

[Admiral Yi]

They also stated that if we choose to forgo health insurance, they would refund some of the savings back to us. If I give up my Family health care plan, in addition to saving $3000 or so a year that I kick in towards the cost, they would refund me an additional $6000/year.

I wonder how that jibes with the employer mandate.

Unless after the $6,000 and the fine they're still coming out ahead. 

[Berkut]

They also stated that if we choose to forgo health insurance, they would refund some of the savings back to us. If I give up my Family health care plan, in addition to saving $3000 or so a year that I kick in towards the cost, they would refund me an additional $6000/year.

I wonder how that jibes with the employer mandate.

Unless after the $6,000 and the fine they're still coming out ahead. 

I don't think they would be in any trouble in that case - they are basically saying that if I don't need healthcare from them (say my wife has coverage from her employer) then they would share in that savings with me.

They are still offering health care.

[Sheilbh]

They also stated that if we choose to forgo health insurance, they would refund some of the savings back to us. If I give up my Family health care plan, in addition to saving $3000 or so a year that I kick in towards the cost, they would refund me an additional $6000/year.

I wonder how that jibes with the employer mandate.

Unless after the $6,000 and the fine they're still coming out ahead. 

I think Berkut's right. They're not going to be fined if you choose not to take their healthcare plan. The mandate is to offer one.

[Admiral Yi]

Hmmm.

[Sheilbh]

Hmmm.

It'd be perverse to have a penalty on companies who offer health insurance but are turned down by their employees - for whatever reason.

Apparently there's two employer penalties. There's a heavy one which is levied on companies that don't offer any plan. There's then a lighter penalty on companies who offer insurance that isn't 'affordable' - so broadly which pays for 60% costs and that charges less than 10% of employee's household income.

[Phillip V]

Health Site Sign-Ups Fall Far Short Of Obama Target

'Fewer than 50,000 people successfully navigated the troubled federal health-care website to enroll in private health-insurance plans as of last week.
...
The administration had estimated that nearly 500,000 people would enroll in October. An estimated seven million were expected to gain private coverage by the end of March, when the open-enrollment period is set to end.'

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303460004579192190709762378

[The Brain]

Then lots of cool usernames should still be available.

[Ed Anger]

DickLong12

[CountDeMoney]

Health Site Sign-Ups Fall Far Short Of Obama Target

'Fewer than 50,000 people successfully navigated the troubled federal health-care website to enroll in private health-insurance plans as of last week.

That's just the Federal website, for people stuck in Dumbfuckistan states that don't have exchanges.  Do we know what the total numbers are, including state exchanges?

[garbon]

They said that won't be released till later in the week.

[Phillip V]

Bill Clinton Attacks Obamacare

'Former President Bill Clinton joined the intensifying criticism of the botched health care rollout, urging President Obama to allow all Americans to keep their current health insurance plan.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/13/us/bill-clinton-urges-obama-to-yield-on-health-law.html