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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Razgovory

I don't know the side effects statistics for these drugs.  I know I've faced both sexual side effects and weight gain.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josquius

Is Contagion any good?
I've a chance to go see it tonight. In theory it sounds like it should be good nonetheless reading about it....I'm left kinda cold.
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Capetan Mihali

#2493
Quote from: Zoupa on November 17, 2011, 09:57:38 PM
A substantial majority means way over 50% of people who take them. I don't mean to be a bitch, but that's simply not true.

You're not being a bitch at all, and you are probably right on the individual side effects. But I'd guess that if you took the percentage of people who suffer sexual dysfunction, weight gain, and suicidality together, you'd easily pass 50%.  Never mind the discontinuation (or forgetting to take a dose) "zaps."

And I think the dosages are crucial for evaluating the side effects.; yeah, 10mg of citalopram might not be a big deal, but 60mg probably is (and was for me). 

But more pertintently, what's up with Seroquel?  Atypical antipsychotics for insomnia/anxiety at doses low enough where they function as massive antihistamines?   :huh:  They seem to want to prescribe it for everything under the sun.  Knocks you out real good, but it takes 3 hours to wake up in the morning.  And those fuckers got a pediatric extension until next year so I pay 35$ a script.   :glare:
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Ideologue

#2494
Video about the college education bubble that degenerated into gold/silver retardation prior to me turning it the fuck off. :bleeding:

I wonder if these guys are actually speaking in code and when they say "precious metal" they mean "firearms."  At least that would be a rational response to their paranoid predictions.  If a collapse of civilization ever does come, these maroons are going to be the Aztecs to the reasonable people's Hernan Cortez.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Ideologue on November 18, 2011, 06:06:56 AM
I wonder if these guys are actually speaking in code and when they say "precious metal" they mean "firearms."  At least that would be a rational response to their paranoid predictions.  If a collapse of civilization ever does come, these maroons are going to be the Aztecs to the reasonable people's Hernan Cortez.

:huh:

The survivalist nutters are already the ones with the guns, man. They'd be much better situated than a "reasonable person" if that were to happen.
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Watched the latest Homeland last nite.

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Watched an episode of the League last night. Always avoided it because of the fantasy football thingy, but I was feeling lazy.

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Zoupa

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on November 18, 2011, 03:03:42 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on November 17, 2011, 09:57:38 PM
A substantial majority means way over 50% of people who take them. I don't mean to be a bitch, but that's simply not true.

You're not being a bitch at all, and you are probably right on the individual side effects. But I'd guess that if you took the percentage of people who suffer sexual dysfunction, weight gain, and suicidality together, you'd easily pass 50%.  Never mind the discontinuation (or forgetting to take a dose) "zaps."

And I think the dosages are crucial for evaluating the side effects.; yeah, 10mg of citalopram might not be a big deal, but 60mg probably is (and was for me). 

But more pertintently, what's up with Seroquel?  Atypical antipsychotics for insomnia/anxiety at doses low enough where they function as massive antihistamines?   :huh:  They seem to want to prescribe it for everything under the sun.  Knocks you out real good, but it takes 3 hours to wake up in the morning.  And those fuckers got a pediatric extension until next year so I pay 35$ a script.   :glare:

You might be right if you combine all the side effects. Still, ssris are the most refilled category of medications in Canada (I don't know the stats for the US), better observance than cholesterol or diabetes pills. So they must be helping a lot of people.

It's strange, but yeah I noticed a big increase in seroquel low-dose over the last 2 years let's say. Must be a new fad. Psychs seem to think the number you get, the less crazy. Kinda stinks to me. I'm a big believer in ECT, as it has consistently shown it's the best way to treat almost anything brain-chemical-imbalance related. Good luck finding a doc willing to try it though.

Admiral Yi

Saw the second half of The American last night.  Pretty slow paced.  If you like shots of George Clooney looking nervous and tense, or footage of narrow cobblestoned Italian alleys, this movie is for you.

Eye candy is good though.  Both the Italian love interest and the chick with the guns.

Viking

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 18, 2011, 08:20:45 PM
Saw the second half of The American last night.  Pretty slow paced.  If you like shots of George Clooney looking nervous and tense, or footage of narrow cobblestoned Italian alleys, this movie is for you.

Eye candy is good though.  Both the Italian love interest and the chick with the guns.

Thekla Reuten (the actress playing the chick with guns) is also very good in Hidden
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Razgovory

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 18, 2011, 06:22:04 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on November 18, 2011, 06:06:56 AM
I wonder if these guys are actually speaking in code and when they say "precious metal" they mean "firearms."  At least that would be a rational response to their paranoid predictions.  If a collapse of civilization ever does come, these maroons are going to be the Aztecs to the reasonable people's Hernan Cortez.

:huh:

The survivalist nutters are already the ones with the guns, man. They'd be much better situated than a "reasonable person" if that were to happen.

You ever read "The Postman".  The average survivalist was the first to go.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Razgovory on November 18, 2011, 08:37:48 PM
You ever read "The Postman".  The average survivalist was the first to go.

No, but I'm pretty sure it's a work of speculative fiction. I may have seen the movie.
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ended up last night seeing an old 1971 movie The Andromeda Strain, which I'd never seen before and was based on a Crichton novel. Wasn't too bad in a quaint early 70s way. And very dated. I enjoyed the scene where the old man lying in hospital bed pinches black nurse's ass, and she's like 'oh...ha ha. You funny man!"

I miss those days.
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I liked the Andromeda Strain.  And I liked the 70s.  Their attitudes towards just about everything were closer to correct, even if their technology was backwards.
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