STAR TREK

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Proper as in a rewrite, or as appending?

Appending. Like the aftermath.

Hmm, interesting. I liked the ending, for the most part. Although, it further highlights janeway is a bad starfleet captain. Temporal Prime Directive and all that. Then again she didn't subject an entire planet to chemical warfare, so I guess it's all relative

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Hmm, interesting. I liked the ending, for the most part. Although, it further highlights janeway is a bad starfleet captain. Temporal Prime Directive and all that. Then again she didn't subject an entire planet to chemical warfare, so I guess it's all relative

I thought the ending was fun but easily could have just occurred somewhere else in the series, not necessarily the ending. Apart from Neelix leaving the ship, they hadn't done much in season 7 to suddenly get them all the way home in two episodes.  And yeah, they took Janeway who was all about I'll never get involved in time travel stuff (while getting pulled into all the time) and tried to spin that losing Seven / Chakotay broken / Tuvok mentally compromised as something that fundamentally changed the character we just spent 7 seasons watching.

Having never seen the end before, I thought they might explore a little of what happens upon their return but we only got to see that via an alternate timeline that will never occur.

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Plus, on recollection, they had already done time travel saves the day when Harry and Chakotay did it.

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Plus, on recollection, they had already done time travel saves the day when Harry and Chakotay did it.

Yes, 100%. That's why it struck me as hollow, that in this finale, alternate timeline Harry Kim is all like you can't mess with the Temporal Prime Directive.

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The Voyager ending was OK. It made sense considering how heavily the Borg had already been nerfed and the technology they had. Though landing right in the Sol system was a bit daft, if the Borg could do that why do we even have Wolf 359.
Voyager's problems with wibbly wobbly rules and characterisation were already long since established.
Which is a shame really as it is a fun series and it was ignorable watching it  as intended, one episode a week for a few months, then doing the same the next year.
Watching it on streaming with one episode after another it becomes hard to ignore.

I've realised I've yet to watch Section 31 or Star Fleet Academy. I should fix that. As poor as I've heard they are.

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Voyager's problems with wibbly wobbly rules and characterisation were already long since established.

Sure but I'll say on my recent watch that Janeway's distaste for time travel shenanigans was a constant. Everytime it happened she would complain about it as something to stay away from. So felt weird she'd be the character to initiate such a plot.

I've realised I've yet to watch Section 31 or Star Fleet Academy. I should fix that. As poor as I've heard they are.

I've yet to watch Section 31 but I wouldn't say SFA is poor. Different certainly than other Treks but it has had enjoyable moments. I also think, looking at cel's reviews of the original series, it is important that complaints are situated in reality not some Platonic ideal of Star Trek.

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I've yet to watch Section 31 but I wouldn't say SFA is poor. Different certainly than other Treks but it has had enjoyable moments. I also think, looking at cel's reviews of the original series, it is important that complaints are situated in reality not some Platonic ideal of Star Trek.

Yeah, watched today classic Trek is monumentally goofy. In a charming way, but goofy. At the same time, when it gets into politics it is hardly subtle, which also puts some of the complaints into perspective.

Anyway, a couple more reviews.

Errand of Mercy

The debut of the klingons. Kirk and Spock travel to planet Organia to get them to join the Federation and while in talks with the council of the planet - who refuse all kinds of violence and don't want anything to do with grand politics, the klingons arrive and take over.

Kirk and Spock stay under false identities and try to organize a resistance movement, but it doesn't get anywere and the klingon leader, Kor, begins to execute random Organians, which seem completely nonplussed by it, to Kirk's desperation. There's a bit of business with Kirk/Spock getting captured and escaping, and ultimately Starfleet arrives and a battle with the klingons over Organia is set up. However, the Organians reveal themselves as all-powerful spiritual beigns and prevent them from using their weapons, scolding both klingons and the Feds for their warlike ways, and forcing them to negotiate a treaty.

I thought this was... pretty great? It's obviously a metaphor of the Vietnam war, and I loved how the Organians also scold Kirk for wanting to drag them into a war, even though the Feds are "the good guys", saying that the people that's gonna get killed don't care about their ideological battles. This probably took some balls to do in network television in the 1960s The scenes between Kirk and Kor, the klingon leader, are terrific, and their relationship is obviously the blueprint for General Chang in The Undiscovered Country. Even though they are enemies, Kor sees Kirk as somebody like him, a warrior, a comparison that Kirk refuses but that it's drawn full circle when the Organians accuse him of being like that.

9/10

A Piece of the action

Mobster planet! I remember this being one of my favorite episodes when I was a kid. Kirk and Co travel to check on a planet and discover that, since the last visit 100 years ago, it has developed into a carbon copy of Chicago during the roaring twenties. Eventually they find out the planet was "contaminated" by a book on mobsters accidentally left by the last expedition, and the rival gangs try to use Kirk and the rest of the away team to get a leg up against the opposition. Kirk gets to don a pinstrip mobster suit, shot a tommygun and a lot of hilarity ensues. Ultimately, they use the Enterprise' weaponry to pacify the planet and set up the Federation as the overlord. There's a cliffhanger where Bones forgets his communicator in the planet and it is suggested the mobsters might reverse engineer it to get modern technology, but according to Memory Alpha they never revisited, that, sadly.

It's a silly episode, where the fun is having Kirk acting like a mobster. 7/10

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Kor's also great in DS9