What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

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Syt

Quote from: garbon on April 12, 2026, 03:07:13 AMTrump did say he was unaware she was going to do that.

Just like their marital and intimate life, then.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: mongers on April 11, 2026, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 10, 2026, 04:08:16 AM
Quote from: Norgy on April 10, 2026, 03:49:58 AMI am not their media advisor. But I would expect this is getting ahead of some shit that will hit some fan somewhere.

But all it appeared to do was draw more attention as I don't recall seeing much being said about Melania and Epstein.

That and wow, this is why they keep her hidden with Pizza hut style hats as her communication style is so cringe.

Perhaps she's distancing herself from trump, because she's heard or seen some serious evidence of him being involved in Epstein's crimes?

I really doubt she did it because of concern for others. Much more likely that something has happened to threaten her personally.
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mongers

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 12, 2026, 07:48:57 AM
Quote from: mongers on April 11, 2026, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 10, 2026, 04:08:16 AM
Quote from: Norgy on April 10, 2026, 03:49:58 AMI am not their media advisor. But I would expect this is getting ahead of some shit that will hit some fan somewhere.

But all it appeared to do was draw more attention as I don't recall seeing much being said about Melania and Epstein.

That and wow, this is why they keep her hidden with Pizza hut style hats as her communication style is so cringe.

Perhaps she's distancing herself from trump, because she's heard or seen some serious evidence of him being involved in Epstein's crimes?

I really doubt she did it because of concern for others. Much more likely that something has happened to threaten her personally.

What I said isn't contradicted by what you posted.  ;)
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crazy canuck

Quote from: mongers on April 12, 2026, 07:51:15 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 12, 2026, 07:48:57 AM
Quote from: mongers on April 11, 2026, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 10, 2026, 04:08:16 AM
Quote from: Norgy on April 10, 2026, 03:49:58 AMI am not their media advisor. But I would expect this is getting ahead of some shit that will hit some fan somewhere.

But all it appeared to do was draw more attention as I don't recall seeing much being said about Melania and Epstein.

That and wow, this is why they keep her hidden with Pizza hut style hats as her communication style is so cringe.

Perhaps she's distancing herself from trump, because she's heard or seen some serious evidence of him being involved in Epstein's crimes?

I really doubt she did it because of concern for others. Much more likely that something has happened to threaten her personally.

What I said isn't contradicted by what you posted.  ;)

I don't think she's concerned at all about Trump being implicated either. I think it's more likely that there is some information that implicates her.
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mongers

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 12, 2026, 07:53:19 AMI don't think she's concerned at all about Trump being implicated either. I think it's more likely that there is some information that implicates her.

Quite possible.

Also despite his majesty's immunity, she doesn't have any more rights that other US citizens, so she can be investigated and face trial, before he can pardon her.
So if she's party to any crime, that could happen and of course she can be entirely innocent, but that some might see it as a way to get at trump?

Alternatively, she might just be a witness to possible criminality, which means she could face questioning in the near future and hence her getting ahead of the news with the 'press statement'?
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Quote from: mongers on April 11, 2026, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 10, 2026, 04:08:16 AM
Quote from: Norgy on April 10, 2026, 03:49:58 AMI am not their media advisor. But I would expect this is getting ahead of some shit that will hit some fan somewhere.

But all it appeared to do was draw more attention as I don't recall seeing much being said about Melania and Epstein.

That and wow, this is why they keep her hidden with Pizza hut style hats as her communication style is so cringe.

Perhaps she's distancing herself from trump, because she's heard or seen some serious evidence of him being involved in Epstein's crimes?

It all comes back to the 80s-90s era New York modelling agencies and how they were used to provide "escorts" for wealthy men.

Melania was working with the modelling agency operated by Paolo Zampolli at the time she first met Trump.  Zampolli was close to Epstein - they invested in a modelling venture that never got off the ground, and he also backed one of Ghislaine's charities. Zampolli has remained close to the Trumps to this very day and got some BS diplomatic appointment from Trump.

Zampolli had another model in his stables not long after the Melania-Trump introduction - Amdanda Ungaro.  According to the Esptein files, Ungaro flew on Epstein's plane at age 17 along with Jean-Luc Brunel (Brunel was implicated in Epstein's crimes and committed suicide in 2022 while in custody)

Ungaro later married Zampolli. It appears that Ungaro was close with Melania during that marriage. Ungaro made front page news lately because she was divorced from Zampolli and there was a custody battle.  According to NYT reporting, Zampolli used his clout with Trump to get ICE to toss Ungaro into custody and then deport her. No more custody battle . . .

The day before Melania gave her bizarre speech, Ungaro posted some tweets on X directed to Melania's account, saying that she "had nothing left to lose", "I will tear down the system" claimed to have damaging information about her and Trump, etc.   The tweets have come down after the Melania speech . . .

The speech was striking for many reasons, but among them are the fact that although Melania has been connected to Epstein in many prior reports, I don't recall anyone ever alleging that Melania was either a victim of Epstein or a witness to his crimes, both of which she made a point of specifically denying.

Thus - it appears Ungaro may know information that Melania fears may be damaging to her and either doesn't want to get out or wants to get "in front of" before it inevitably comes out.
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Jacob

How many people linked to the Epstein files have "committed suicide" - in custody or out?

mongers

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 12, 2026, 04:15:37 PM
Quote from: mongers on April 11, 2026, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 10, 2026, 04:08:16 AM
Quote from: Norgy on April 10, 2026, 03:49:58 AMI am not their media advisor. But I would expect this is getting ahead of some shit that will hit some fan somewhere.

But all it appeared to do was draw more attention as I don't recall seeing much being said about Melania and Epstein.

That and wow, this is why they keep her hidden with Pizza hut style hats as her communication style is so cringe.

Perhaps she's distancing herself from trump, because she's heard or seen some serious evidence of him being involved in Epstein's crimes?

It all comes back to the 80s-90s era New York modelling agencies and how they were used to provide "escorts" for wealthy men.

Melania was working with the modelling agency operated by Paolo Zampolli at the time she first met Trump.  Zampolli was close to Epstein - they invested in a modelling venture that never got off the ground, and he also backed one of Ghislaine's charities. Zampolli has remained close to the Trumps to this very day and got some BS diplomatic appointment from Trump.

Zampolli had another model in his stables not long after the Melania-Trump introduction - Amdanda Ungaro.  According to the Esptein files, Ungaro flew on Epstein's plane at age 17 along with Jean-Luc Brunel (Brunel was implicated in Epstein's crimes and committed suicide in 2022 while in custody)

Ungaro later married Zampolli. It appears that Ungaro was close with Melania during that marriage. Ungaro made front page news lately because she was divorced from Zampolli and there was a custody battle.  According to NYT reporting, Zampolli used his clout with Trump to get ICE to toss Ungaro into custody and then deport her. No more custody battle . . .

The day before Melania gave her bizarre speech, Ungaro posted some tweets on X directed to Melania's account, saying that she "had nothing left to lose", "I will tear down the system" claimed to have damaging information about her and Trump, etc.   The tweets have come down after the Melania speech . . .

The speech was striking for many reasons, but among them are the fact that although Melania has been connected to Epstein in many prior reports, I don't recall anyone ever alleging that Melania was either a victim of Epstein or a witness to his crimes, both of which she made a point of specifically denying.

Thus - it appears Ungaro may know information that Melania fears may be damaging to her and either doesn't want to get out or wants to get "in front of" before it inevitably comes out.

Thanks JR for the background, interesting stuff.
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Syt

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Weak on crime? Is pedophilia even illegal in the Vatican?
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Syt

Quote from: The Brain on Today at 11:17:07 AMWeak on crime? Is pedophilia even illegal in the Vatican?

I don't think Trump thinks that's a crime.
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The Minsky Moment

Translation for every Trump social media communication.

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

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Jacob

It's been embarrassing for a long time.

Caliga

I wonder why the Pope is 'weak on nuclear weapons'.  Is it because the Vatican does not have a nuclear arsenal? :hmm:
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