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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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crazy canuck

I think you are not giving up to that in BC the historical war is for the right and centre right to have a coalition party to counter the NDP.

Recent history is very much admire right wing conservatives and centrist BC liberals were competing against each other.  That has never happened in my lifetime.  There has always been a coalition party.

The coalition party does not rise from the ashes like it did when the social credit party imploded, and that will be a significant shift in the politics of this province.
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Jacob

Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 12:24:22 AMThe coalition party does not rise from the ashes like it did when the social credit party imploded, and that will be a significant shift in the politics of this province.

What do you think the odds are of a coalition re-emerging - or rather, managing to remain together under the current banner of the BC Conservatives?

And in a scenario where it does not, how do you see it playing out?

On the face of it it seems like it will give the NDP a structural advantage in the near and medium terms as the anti-NDP vote is split. Or are there other likely scenarios?

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on Today at 12:37:31 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 12:24:22 AMThe coalition party does not rise from the ashes like it did when the social credit party imploded, and that will be a significant shift in the politics of this province.

What do you think the odds are of a coalition re-emerging - or rather, managing to remain together under the current banner of the BC Conservatives?

And in a scenario where it does not, how do you see it playing out?

On the face of it it seems like it will give the NDP a structural advantage in the near and medium terms as the anti-NDP vote is split. Or are there other likely scenarios?

I think the chances of the coalition reforming under the BC Conservative Party banner is high.  The reason the BC Liberal party changed its name is because most of the party membership chafed at belonging to a party with liberal in the name.
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Josquius

Quote from: Grey Fox on December 03, 2025, 03:27:15 PMIt wasn't cheap and the government has 5 years, iirc, to buy it from the CDPQ or they will be able to do has they please selling it to China or SA or some such.

The train it self is pretty awesome so far. Has really got rid of a lot of traffic on my morning commute.

What do you mean not cheap?
This is the key point of most of the reporting I'm seeing. They pulled off something quite amazing in doing it reasonably quickly and cheaply for the anglosphere.
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Bauer

That MacLeans article didn't seem to mention the broadway skytrain (subway) and Langley skytrain extensions going on in metro Van.  That seems pretty significant.

Victoria has been working on an express bus lane to the west shore that'll be connected in another 1-2 years.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Bauer on Today at 03:34:45 PMThat MacLeans article didn't seem to mention the broadway skytrain (subway) and Langley skytrain extensions going on in metro Van.  That seems pretty significant.

Victoria has been working on an express bus lane to the west shore that'll be connected in another 1-2 years.

Yeah, the author had to ignore what is happening in the Lower Mainland to make the claim "This is a sharp contrast to the rest of the country."  It pretty much exactly what is happening here, and imho we are doing it relatively well.  Although I wish they would get to some of the long planned segments more quickly.
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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Grey Fox

Quote from: Josquius on Today at 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 03, 2025, 03:27:15 PMIt wasn't cheap and the government has 5 years, iirc, to buy it from the CDPQ or they will be able to do has they please selling it to China or SA or some such.

The train it self is pretty awesome so far. Has really got rid of a lot of traffic on my morning commute.

What do you mean not cheap?
This is the key point of most of the reporting I'm seeing. They pulled off something quite amazing in doing it reasonably quickly and cheaply for the anglosphere.

Sure, it's cheaper than the estimated cost of NYC but still 9.4 billions is not cheap for Québec.
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Justin Trudeau and Katy Perry have made their relationship official on... Instagram.
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Quebec Liberals are embroiled on a mini-scandal.
Ok, not so mini.  Illegal financing that may not have been 100% illegal for their leadership campaign.

It's apparently not illegal to exchange payment or favors to elect a party leader in a provincial election, so long as it's properly documented.  The things you learn! Apparently, some Liberal members were paid 100$ to vote for current leader (and former Federal minister) Pablo I knew nothing Rodriguez.  John A. McDonald and Georges-Étienne Cartier would be so proud of our modern politicians!  :P

Now, some other text messages resurfaced.  An entrepreneur gave money, 500$ confirmed, but obviously more, in exchange of "favours to come" to the Liberal Party of Quebec.

Rodriguez isn't elected, so there was one Parliamentary chief, who has now been ejected from the party.  Lack of loyalty.  She fired her cabinet chief, hired by knew nothing Rodriguez for allegedly being involved in diverting public funds to the party coffers, benefiting Rodriguez during his provincial tour.

Rodriguez claimed he knew nothing, no one told him anything.  His friend was innocent of any wrong doing and no one in the party did anything the wrong.  The text messages were AI manipulations by dishonest journalists.

Plot twist: a second Liberal MNA is now excluded from the party caucus for diverting public funds...  Of course, it's still all false allegations, and the former cabinet chief is still innocent (for this exact same thing...) and is being reintegrated into her functions...

Rodriguez exclut une autre députée de son caucus

All is good with the Libs.


Also, meanwhile, Paul St-Pierre Plamondon, leader of the Parti Québécois, had a trumpian moment, designating as traitors anyone from the cultural sector who dared congratulating Marc Miller into his new functions.  The cultural sector of Quebec his heavily dependent on Federal and Provincial subsidies.  But they mostly favor Quebec independence and the PQ, or Québec Solidaire, but given the latest polls, I'd wager a safe bet that they're mostly back to the PQ.  In other words: he's shooting himself in the foot by trying to appear as a strong man.  
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.