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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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crazy canuck

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I am not sure what you mean by "easy".  Did you happen to notice the numerous court proceedings involving the Trans Mountain pipeline?

It's funny, not so long ago I was explaining that development is not impossible if the First Nations object.  I might even have been trying to convince you of that.  Now they are easy to disregard?  Hmm
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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

viper37

Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 12:33:13 PMI am not sure what you mean by "easy".  Did you happen to notice the numerous court proceedings involving the Trans Mountain pipeline?

It's funny, not so long ago I was explaining that development is not impossible if the First Nations object.  I might even have been trying to convince you of that.  Now they are easy to disregard?  Hmm
The things have changed.

You look at it through the legalistic lens.  I look at it through the political lens.

The pipeline will happen, the industrial emission will increase by a lot, as well as other industrial pollutants.

First Nations objections will be switfly set aside, as well as any provincial objection.

I am uncertain about the repeal of the tanker ban.  I give it a 50/50 chance of happening.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

crazy canuck

The legal lens is not hypothetical.  Court challenges by First Nations are real, and that is why meaningful consultation is required.  That process is onerous and so it is often better to obtain agreement rather than try to defend the validity of the consultation process in court.

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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Jacob

For the record, I tend to believe the pipeline MOU is good politics and won't necessarily mean a pipeline being built, but my impression is that a good number of British Columbians - and perhaps more importantly a number of Coastal First Nations - are understanding the MOU as an attempt to force a pipeline to be built without their consent; and they're reacting rather strongly to that.