Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

[Sheilbh]

But people who do not follow politics will not put even 10% of effort into analysing things like that. It IS a matter of story.

Sure no-one follows politics or does that. That's not my point - this isn't about voters.

Political parties or politicians need to do the analysis and have a diagnosis in order to have policy offers and narratives that tie together and are coherent/make sense to voters. It's not just that the radicals on both sides have got better comms - they've got an analysis and theory. The mainstream don't yet - as I say I think they're still in the denial/bargaining stage.

[Tamas]

they're still in the denial/bargaining stage.

Ok, I agree with that

[Jacob]

I think that sounds about right Sheilbh.

[Sheilbh]

they're still in the denial/bargaining stage.

Ok, I agree with that

Yes. Although it's 17 years since the crash, 9 years since the first big political shocks (though I think they start a little earlier - Syriza, Podemos, IndyRef, Corbyn, Sanders run in the primaries), plus covid, plus war. I am slightly out of patience at this stage - at some point they need to, in the immortal words of Cher, "snap out of it"

[Josquius]

Ed Miliband should have won

[PJL]

Ed Miliband should have won

I'm defintely warming to the idea he should be the next PM if/when Starmer is pushed out. He very much has grown in stature over the last few years IMO.

[Sheilbh]

I think he'd have been a disaster then and worse now

[HVC]

Ed Miliband should have won

I'm defintely warming to the idea he should be the next PM if/when Starmer is pushed out. He very much has grown in stature over the last few years IMO.

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