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The Israel-Iran War ?

Started by Armyknife, September 25, 2009, 02:31:13 PM

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Legbiter

Quote from: Grey Fox on June 19, 2025, 12:51:04 PMTACO is chickening out. Leavitt just said decision in the next 2 weeks.

2 weeks means never so the Americans are not going to get directly involved. Then the length of this war is down to Israeli logistics and bomb stockpiles. :hmm:
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crazy canuck

If the Americans are not going to get involved now, Israel might back down.

Valmy

Quote from: crazy canuck on June 19, 2025, 04:30:54 PMIf the Americans are not going to get involved now, Israel might back down.

If that is the case, that is impressive.

Well I guess Trump doesn't discriminate. He betrays everybody.

So we did enough to discredit ourselves and put Israelis in danger, but not enough to actually achieve of the goals of the attack...whatever they were. Nice.

It is stuff like this that continues to alienate me from my own country. Just a bunch of feckless cowardly bullies with no redeeming qualities. That is what we are.

But we will see.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

Trump will release his health care plan before he attacks Iran.  We are fortunate that he is an abject coward.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Jacob

Went downtown for dinner and drove by a demonstration. They were chanting about Iran. Most of the flags were Persian, I think, but a couple of Israeli flags too - and a few I didn't recognize.

So I think it was anti-regime Persians voicing their support for the Israeli attack on Iran.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on June 19, 2025, 07:46:27 PMSo I think it was anti-regime Persians voicing their support for the Israeli attack on Iran.

I doubt that very much. The Iranian community here still has family members living in Iran. Much more likely the demonstration was against the Iranian government - there have been very large demonstrations like that in Vancouver in recent years. Not supporting attacks which will kill their family members.

Jacob

Who do you think would be waving Persian flags at the Vancouver Art Gallery, if not anti-regime Iranians?

Sheilbh

Yeah that doesn't surprise me - Reza Pahlavi has also backed Israel. I think it's a fairly niche taste within the wider diaspora but definitely a thing.
Let's bomb Russia!

Jacob

Yeah, just saw they had a banner saying "King Reza Pahlavi" on it.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on June 19, 2025, 08:12:12 PMWho do you think would be waving Persian flags at the Vancouver Art Gallery, if not anti-regime Iranians?

Read my post again

Admiral Yi

I heard interviews on PBS with Iranians in Iran expressing happiness that Israel was killing senior regime officials.

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Jacob


OttoVonBismarck

I've met a few expat Iranians in my time, never met one who was anything but strongly anti-clerical regime. But that's a very self-selecting population, the vast majority of Iranian expats are expats because of the regime.

I think they are often anti-Israel and American-skeptic though. There have been some on social media that have pretty prominently cheered on attacks on Iran over the past few years, but I also don't know how much any of it matters. The Iranians who fled won't determine Iran's future, and are a relatively small group regardless.

crazy canuck

#254
My experience is similar. There is a large community of people who fled after the revolution living in North Vancouver.

I have never met someone who supports the Iranian government, and I have never met anyone belonged to that community who hoped Israel would  attack Iran.

The people I know well are very anxious for the safety of their relatives still in Iran.

Edit, I should add they have been fearing for the safety of their relatives since they arrived in Canada, because of the regime in Iran. And now also because of the attacks by Israel.