The Israel-Iran War ?

[Jacob]

Probably a factor, but I could also see Netanyahu/Putin having an understanding of sorts? You let us do this, we stay out of Ukraine/pressure US to stay out of Ukraine?

What capability does Russia have to let or not let Israel attack Iran at this point in time?

[crazy canuck]

I see lots of people on Facebook celebrating the bombing of Israel.  I thought that bombing like this was a war crime and very, very bad.  Why would people celebrate a thing they think is very, very bad?

Well go talk to them about it.

Though it probably is less of a crime when a country bombs you first.

Interesting idea.  You can commit war crimes if they attack you first. 

A bit like the positions you have taken in defence of Israel.

Correct.  I'm just glad Valmy and much of the world seems to agree with me.

That might be your algorithm again

[Syt]

Probably a factor, but I could also see Netanyahu/Putin having an understanding of sorts? You let us do this, we stay out of Ukraine/pressure US to stay out of Ukraine?

What capability does Russia have to let or not let Israel attack Iran at this point in time?

No idea. I'd assume they could provide some hypersonic missiles or similar to Iran in exchange for drones, but there would be no plausible deniability.

[crazy canuck]

Probably a factor, but I could also see Netanyahu/Putin having an understanding of sorts? You let us do this, we stay out of Ukraine/pressure US to stay out of Ukraine?

What capability does Russia have to let or not let Israel attack Iran at this point in time?

No idea. I'd assume they could provide some hypersonic missiles or similar to Iran in exchange for drones, but there would be no plausible deniability.

You suggested some agreement between Russia and Israel.  Giving missiles to Iran would be an unlikely incentive for Israel.

[Razgovory]

That might be your algorithm again

Maybe, tell you what:  If the UN charges Iran with genocide I was wrong.

[crazy canuck]

I think we can go with the fact that the leader of Israel has already been charged with war crimes and so you might want to reflect on that for a bit.

[Razgovory]

I think we can go with the fact that the leader of Israel has already been charged with war crimes and so you might want to reflect on that for a bit.

See, if another leader is charged with the same crime for the same thing then the law is being used fairly.  If not, then it is not.  There is probably some legal word for only using the law against people you don't like.  So It would be interesting to see if the leader of Iran is charged with war crimes by the UN.  If he is then it would be a vindication that bombing civilians is bad rather than simply being Jewish is bad.  Same thing with Saudi Arabia in Yemen.

[crazy canuck]

So much for reflection.  The people who claim much of Languish is Yi are right after all.

[Valmy]

I wonder how this is going to affect regime stability in Iran. Will Iranians rally around the government or will it provide an opportunity for regime change?

And I wonder what the odds are of US boots on the ground in the next little while.

Yeah, I don't know. The internal dynamics of Iran are tricky to work out.

[Valmy]

I think we can go with the fact that the leader of Israel has already been charged with war crimes and so you might want to reflect on that for a bit.

The leader of Israel has already been charged with crimes by Israel itself.

The fact that he is a corrupt, monstrous, liar and we all know this is especially encouraging in this situation.

[Valmy]

That might be your algorithm again

Maybe, tell you what:  If the UN charges Iran with genocide I was wrong.

So what is worse in your book: being massively hypocritical or actually committing ethnic cleansing or genocide? Because you seem much more concerned with the former than the latter.

[crazy canuck]

I think we can go with the fact that the leader of Israel has already been charged with war crimes and so you might want to reflect on that for a bit.

The leader of Israel has already been charged with crimes by Israel itself.

The fact that he is a corrupt, monstrous, liar and we all know this is especially encouraging in this situation.

Yep

[Razgovory]

So much for reflection.  The people who claim much of Languish is Yi are right after all.

Have you thought about doing some reflection?  Like why is it a crime when Israel does it but not when Iran does it?

[Razgovory]

That might be your algorithm again

Maybe, tell you what:  If the UN charges Iran with genocide I was wrong.

So what is worse in your book: being massively hypocritical or actually committing ethnic cleansing or genocide? Because you seem much more concerned with the former than the latter.

I do not think that that a bombing campaign is genocide, and really I don't think anyone else does either.  People who believe that a bombing campaign is genocide wouldn't be cheering one against Israel unless they themselves were genocidal (and admittedly that may be the case with many of them).  A double standard based on perceived ancestry is called racism.  I'm not objecting so much to the hypocrisy, I'm objecting to the racism.  The UN could dispel those concerns with charges of war crimes for Saudi Arabia, Iran, and a genocide charge against president Xi of China.

[grumbler]

So much for reflection.  The people who claim much of Languish is Yi are right after all.

Have you thought about doing some reflection?  Like why is it a crime when Israel does it but not when Iran does it?

What is Iran doing that has your panties in a twist?  Firing rockets at Israel? That might, indeed, be a war crime, but it depends on what the Iranians are targeting.  e know that, in the Israeli case in Gaza that they are attempting to make it impossible for the Gazans to stay. Their more honest fascists in the government have said so.

From all accounts, the Israeli strikes in Iran are on legitimate targets.  Some of them seem like they could be ignoring collateral damage (like dropping an entire apartment building in the hopes of killing a specific person) but there isn't enough info to conclude anything yet.