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Quo Vadis, Democrats?

Started by Syt, November 13, 2024, 01:00:21 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: grumbler on June 16, 2025, 07:21:45 PMWhoever came up with "No Kings" as the rallying cry for the protests this last weekend deserves a medal.

Yeah. That seems like a big political success.

However, like most things in Trump's America we barely have time to process it before rushing off to the next disaster instigated by our dear leader.
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HVC

Quote from: grumbler on June 16, 2025, 07:21:45 PMWhoever came up with "No Kings" as the rallying cry for the protests this last weekend deserves a medal.

The Romans tried that too. but then the autocrats just used other terms. Loops holes, man, they suck. Grand Poobah Trump has a nice ring to it :D  :(
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on June 16, 2025, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: grumbler on June 16, 2025, 07:21:45 PMWhoever came up with "No Kings" as the rallying cry for the protests this last weekend deserves a medal.

Yeah. That seems like a big political success.

However, like most things in Trump's America we barely have time to process it before rushing off to the next disaster instigated by our dear leader.

Now they just need to make these rallies a regular thing.  Second and fourth Saturday of each month, say.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 16, 2025, 06:18:13 PMI think collectively, for whatever reason, we right here have spent a lot more time discussing attacks on drone taxis than the assaults on our fellow human beings in LA by the US federal government.  And that's not the appropriate proportionality of attention.

I don't see the coherence in this position either.  It's not an individual obsession, which would make Hillary the dickhead, it's a collective obsession.  Yet you contribute to this collective obsession by continuing the discussion of attacks on drone taxis.

The Minsky Moment

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Zoupa

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2025, 05:15:46 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 16, 2025, 11:12:49 AMRight, we aren't saying liberals shouldn't criticize vandalism.  It's just that the obsessive focus on a few ruined autonomous taxis seems out of proportion in a context where the head of DHS is openly boasting about using federal military force to overthrow and discipline America's largest state government, while exerting shocking levels of violence, brutality, and deprivation of the civil rights of citizens and non-citizens alike, all for the purpose of scoring political points with their "base".

So sure this guy here burned those 3 trees, but then there's the fact that Trump and Noem are napalming the entire forest.

The waymo subject started with Hillary posting with what I thought was a very innocuous post directed at Zoupa's indifference to (or support of) burning cars.  Zoupa and garbon said in effect the opposite of what you did.  Their position is in effect liberals shouldn't criticize vandalism. Your position is criticism of destruction of property is fine is long as it's not done obsessively.  Was Hillary demonstrating an obsession with car burning?

The waymo subject started by Raz mentioning how terrible it is. I found that position to be ridiculous in the grand scheme of things happening these days.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Zoupa on June 16, 2025, 10:14:03 PMThe waymo subject started by Raz mentioning how terrible it is. I found that position to be ridiculous in the grand scheme of things happening these days.

I stand corrected as to the starting point but not the content.  I can't find the word terrible in Raz's post.

I already know you found it ridiculous.  I found your response to Hillary to be more than ridiculous.  I found it to be odious and childish.  That's where we're at.

Razgovory

Wait, who is Hillary again?
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Zoupa

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2025, 10:24:07 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 16, 2025, 10:14:03 PMThe waymo subject started by Raz mentioning how terrible it is. I found that position to be ridiculous in the grand scheme of things happening these days.

I stand corrected as to the starting point but not the content.  I can't find the word terrible in Raz's post.

I already know you found it ridiculous.  I found your response to Hillary to be more than ridiculous.  I found it to be odious and childish.  That's where we're at.

This response is odious and childish?

QuoteI'm not sure what waymo did, if anything. Could be a malfunction, foreign agents, Maga provocateurs, false flag actions etc. A thourough investigation is needed.

Admiral Yi

"It's just a car. Unclutch your panties. "

This one.

Zoupa

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2025, 11:22:45 PM"It's just a car. Unclutch your panties. "

This one.

lol that's odious? Jeebus, how Languish has fallen. Somehow I think HVC's Piri Piri ass survived my repugnant attack.

Jacob

Quote from: Zoupa on June 16, 2025, 11:28:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 16, 2025, 11:22:45 PM"It's just a car. Unclutch your panties. "

This one.

lol that's odious? Jeebus, how Languish has fallen. Somehow I think HVC's Piri Piri ass survived my repugnant attack.

You are apparently not allowed to talk about panties during a pussy civil war.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Zoupa on June 16, 2025, 11:28:09 PMlol that's odious? Jeebus, how Languish has fallen. Somehow I think HVC's Piri Piri ass survived my repugnant attack.

You are not a part of the serious discussion, you are a prop, an exhibit.  Joan is making a heroic, well intentioned, and thankless effort to broker some sort of accomodation between the nutjobs (you) and the centrists.  This discussion only has purpose to the extent that it informs Joan of the terrain in which he is operating.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Jacob on June 16, 2025, 11:29:11 PMYou are apparently not allowed to talk about panties during a pussy civil war.

Unclutch your panties.