What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Syt

Yeah, but at least they're not rudely waving foreign flags in the streets or burn waymos.
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grumbler

The last time we saw US tanks parading through the streets of a nation's capital it led to a 20-year quagmire. Let's hope we are luckier this time.
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Having a more or less complicit Supreme Court certainly helps in aiding and abetting that lawlessness. They allow holds and appeals aiding Trump to stand with the theoretical intention of reviewing and ruling on the cases and then simply wait for the crisis to be over and the target of the attack to fold and give in to Trump and cronies. Then they just let the matter quietly fade away as it is no longer a case that is subject to their purview.  :rolleyes:
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garbon

Quote from: Syt on June 13, 2025, 03:35:03 AM

Apparently nothing was accomplished on this raid. It was to catch a previously deported guy with a criminal history but he wasn't home. His American pregnant wife was though.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/dhs-secretary-kristi-noem-attends-ice-raid-at-home-of-pregnant-l-a-county-mother/amp/

QuoteDHS Secretary Kristi Noem attends ICE raid at Los Angeles County home

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem joined federal immigration agents Thursday on a raid targeting a man with a criminal record at a Huntington Park, California, home, the agency said.


The raid occurred Thursday morning when about a half-dozen vehicles carrying heavily armed, masked U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents converged on a home occupied by a 28-year-old pregnant mother of four.

Sabrina Medina said she was in the shower around 6 a.m. when her brother-in-law first saw the menacing presence in front of the family's home.

"I was just terrified, I'm not going to lie to you," Medina told KTLA's Rick Chambers. "I was shaking. I was scared. I've never gone through anything like this."

Medina said she looked out the window and saw 10 men dressed in tactical military gear, all carrying rifles.

"I was like, 'Am I dreaming or is this real?'" she said.

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem seen at an ICE raid at the Huntington Park home of a pregnant mother of four on June 12, 2025. (DHS)
According to Medina, who is a U.S. citizen, the agents told her to exit her home with her children. Standing in the driveway, they showed her a warrant for her husband, listing his name as David Garcia.

As she explained that her husband's name is Jorge and that he was not at the house, one of the agents was captured on an outdoor home surveillance camera turning the device away from what was transpiring.

Cameras inside the home captured the heavily armed ICE agents going through the residence room by room, all while Noem, wearing a bulletproof vest and ballcap, watched from the street.

DHS later posted on X that the target of the raid was "an illegal alien from Mexico who had previously been deported. His criminal history includes drug trafficking and assault."

After hearing about the raid, L.A. County Supervisor Janice Hahn went to the Huntington Park neighborhood and spoke with some of Medina's neighbors.

"I'm very disappointed in this government right now and what they're doing," she told KTLA.

Four months pregnant with her fifth child, the Huntington Park mother said if her husband is deported, the family's future is bleak.

"I'm not going to be able to pay my rent when I have to pay it," she explained. "My husband is not here. I don't know if they're going to pick him up tomorrow, the day after tomorrow. It's sad."

ICE agents, along with Noem, eventually left the home empty-handed, and the children were allowed back inside.

For now, the family is unsure what the coming days will bring, but Medina said if her husband is deported, she and her children will likely follow him back to Mexico.
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garbon

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/southern-california-father-who-is-u-s-citizen-arrested-during-immigration-raid-family-says/

QuoteSouthern California father who is U.S. citizen, arrested during immigration raid, family says

Family members are demanding answers after they say a man who is a U.S. citizen was wrongfully arrested by federal agents during an immigration raid in Montebello.

On June 12, surveillance video captured the moment several masked and armed agents surrounded a tow truck business in Montebello.

The agents quickly entered the property and began detaining mechanics and other workers at the site.

One of the detained men who was later released spoke to KTLA but asked not to be identified out of safety concerns. He said he was violently grabbed and taken by the agents despite being a U.S. citizen.

"He slammed me to the gate," the man told KTLA's Ellina Abovian. "He put my hands behind my back. I'm an American citizen. You do not do that to Americans."

Nataly Degante, whose cousin, Javier Ramirez, 32, was arrested in the raid, said that while agents began handcuffing everyone, they reportedly never provided identification or information about why they were there.

"We see in the video that they don't come with a warrant," she said. "They don't have any documentation in their hands."

Degante said her cousin is a U.S. citizen and a single father of two young children. She described him as a hard worker with no criminal record.

Video of the raid shows some workers being moved to the ground as agents quickly handcuffed them. Ramirez is also seen on the video yelling to the agents that he's a citizen.

"He's telling them he is a U.S. citizen and he's letting them know, 'My passport is in my pocket,'" Degante said. 

However, Ramirez was handcuffed and taken into custody. His brother tried following Ramirez's location through his cell phone's tracking app, but the signal was eventually lost. His family has not heard from him since.

"We haven't heard anything about him," said Abimael Dominguez, his brother. "He's diabetic. I don't even know if he has insulin yet or has he eaten? We don't know anything. "

It remains unclear whether the agents were with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) or the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Some of the agents appeared to be wearing uniforms with a Border Patrol insignia.

"I voted, but not for this," said the man who was detained and later released. "I'm an American citizen. I want the best for all of us. I feel like there is due process that we must follow."

"They're not only taking criminals, they are taking our community," Degante said.

As of Friday afternoon, Homeland Security has not responded to KTLA's request for comment about why Ramirez was detained or whether he was wanted for any crimes.
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Tamas

Sure, citizen, but I bet he had the incorrect skin colour.

Syt

Quote from: Tamas on June 14, 2025, 01:42:52 AMSure, citizen, but I bet he had the incorrect skin colour.

I mean, he's called "Ramirez"
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Zoupa

Nevermind that, did Ramirez damage a car in protest afterwards?

Syt

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garbon

Quote from: Zoupa on June 14, 2025, 03:11:36 AMNevermind that, did Ramirez damage a car in protest afterwards?

No apparently they've gone with the now old standby - charge him with assaulting an officer...

https://abc7.com/post/man-arrested-ice-agents-montebello-towing-yard-is-us-citizen-family-says/16743898/

QuoteThe U.S. Attorney's Office said Ramirez was arrested for assaulting an ICE agent and is expected to be charged with assaulting a federal officer. They noted that Ramirez was not arrested in connection with his immigration status.

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Zoupa

 :wacko:

It's really bizarro world down there.

Tamas


grumbler

Quote from: Tamas on June 14, 2025, 09:53:05 AMhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/14/democratic-lawmakers-minnesota-shot

The US seems to be on fast forward to something very nasty.

It was apparently a single gunman, and they have his car so know who he is. He was impersonating a police officer.

Luckily, he will be charged by the state so Trump will have no chance to pardon him.
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Solmyr

Quote from: grumbler on June 14, 2025, 10:18:48 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 14, 2025, 09:53:05 AMhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/14/democratic-lawmakers-minnesota-shot

The US seems to be on fast forward to something very nasty.

It was apparently a single gunman, and they have his car so know who he is. He was impersonating a police officer.

Luckily, he will be charged by the state so Trump will have no chance to pardon him.

So far, Trump has not shown much respect for state powers.