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Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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HVC

They have Sumerian tablets complaining about "kids these days" :lol:
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

grumbler

Quote from: viper37 on March 06, 2025, 11:15:06 AMTrump to revoke legal status for 240,000 Ukrainians as US steps up deportations

I suppose that's the reason he needed a prison camp in Gitmo bay.

The title on the link is not the title on the (very different) actual news story.  In the actual story, Trump is simply ruminating about possibly doing so.
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mongers

Poland leads the way on European defence:

QuotePoland to train all adult men for warfare - PM

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk wears a blue suit with a red heart pinned on the lapelImage source, Reuters
Image caption,

Polish PM Donald Tusk attends a European Union leaders special summit to discuss Ukraine and European defence

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has said work is under way to make all adult men in the country undergo military training.

"We will try to have a model ready by the end of this year so that every adult male in Poland is trained in the event of war, so that this reserve is comparable and adequate to the potential threats," Tusk says in a speech to the lower house of the Polish parliament.

He also says he supports Poland withdrawing from the Ottawa Convention that bans the use of anti-personnel landmines, and also possibly from the Dublin Convention that bans the use of cluster munitions. He says he will ask the defence minister for his opinion on the matters.

Tusk adds that he thinks Poland should spend 5% of its GDP on defence. This year, the government plans to spend 4.7% of GDP on defence - the highest in Nato.

Earlier, President Duda proposed amending the constitution to make defence spending at a level of 4% of GDP compulsory.

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: HVC on March 06, 2025, 06:04:52 PMThey have Sumerian tablets complaining about "kids these days" :lol:

Yeah but that generation of Sumerian kids really was lazy.  Using their imported slacker "alphabet" instead of proper cuneiform like real men.
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Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 07, 2025, 08:54:09 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 06, 2025, 06:04:52 PMThey have Sumerian tablets complaining about "kids these days" :lol:

Yeah but that generation of Sumerian kids really was lazy.  Using their imported slacker "alphabet" instead of proper cuneiform like real men.

Lounging on street corners, drinking beer and speaking in Akkadian slang :mad:

Barrister

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2025, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 06, 2025, 11:48:04 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2025, 11:39:37 AMHe is quickly turning the US into the enemy of the free world

I hope they all come to Canada

This is going to come across as a bit racist, but fuck it.

Every Ukrainian immigrant I've known has been fabulous.

I have nothing against Somalis (to pick one example) coming to Canada, but they do generate a lot of my files.  Understandable given the shitshow of that country.

But we should take every Ukrainian we can get.

Not just a bit.

Why couldn't you have said you welcome them, without having to say you prefer them over people with Brown skin?

Because I didn't say or mean "I prefer them over people with Brown skin".

If I had meant that, I would have said that.

Somalia - it's a really tough part of the world.  There's a reason it's a center of piracy.  It has nothing to do with their skin colour, everything to do with the country and lack of government.

Although - I've been trying to do Duolingo Ukrainian the last few days.  It is seriously kicking my ass.  It's a hard language.
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DGuller

Eastern Europe is great at developing human capital, and awful at deploying it effectively.  That's why Eastern Europeans are so resourceful at individual level, but constantly need to be so resourceful to survive.

Caliga

Quote from: Valmy on March 06, 2025, 05:24:38 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 06, 2025, 02:17:27 PMDespite being part of a generation everyone thinks is lazy and indulgent, she works her ass off and is a very talented developer.

AKA whatever generation is currently in their 20s.
I know, I know.  Personally I hate all of the generation generalizations, it's the same as saying 'all Chinese people are good at math'.  It's a worthless stereotype.... and yes, I recall reading in Tacitus how he was complaining about how today's youth have no ambition or something like that.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Barrister on March 07, 2025, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2025, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 06, 2025, 11:48:04 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2025, 11:39:37 AMHe is quickly turning the US into the enemy of the free world

I hope they all come to Canada

This is going to come across as a bit racist, but fuck it.

Every Ukrainian immigrant I've known has been fabulous.

I have nothing against Somalis (to pick one example) coming to Canada, but they do generate a lot of my files.  Understandable given the shitshow of that country.

But we should take every Ukrainian we can get.

Not just a bit.

Why couldn't you have said you welcome them, without having to say you prefer them over people with Brown skin?

Because I didn't say or mean "I prefer them over people with Brown skin".

If I had meant that, I would have said that.

Somalia - it's a really tough part of the world.  There's a reason it's a center of piracy.  It has nothing to do with their skin colour, everything to do with the country and lack of government.

Although - I've been trying to do Duolingo Ukrainian the last few days.  It is seriously kicking my ass.  It's a hard language.

Odd, given the fact that you said that what you were saying was a bit racist.





Barrister

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 07, 2025, 03:30:38 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 07, 2025, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2025, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 06, 2025, 11:48:04 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2025, 11:39:37 AMHe is quickly turning the US into the enemy of the free world

I hope they all come to Canada

This is going to come across as a bit racist, but fuck it.

Every Ukrainian immigrant I've known has been fabulous.

I have nothing against Somalis (to pick one example) coming to Canada, but they do generate a lot of my files.  Understandable given the shitshow of that country.

But we should take every Ukrainian we can get.

Not just a bit.

Why couldn't you have said you welcome them, without having to say you prefer them over people with Brown skin?

Because I didn't say or mean "I prefer them over people with Brown skin".

If I had meant that, I would have said that.

Somalia - it's a really tough part of the world.  There's a reason it's a center of piracy.  It has nothing to do with their skin colour, everything to do with the country and lack of government.

Although - I've been trying to do Duolingo Ukrainian the last few days.  It is seriously kicking my ass.  It's a hard language.

Odd, given the fact that you said that what you were saying was a bit racist.

I said:

QuoteThis is going to come across as a bit racist

Not that it was racist.

But some people would take it as racist.

Like you did.

I will repeat though:

QuoteBut we should take every Ukrainian we can get.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.


Barrister

Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Tamas

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 07, 2025, 04:04:09 PMI think we're done

If he singled out Russians as problematic immigrants due to the politics in their country would you have objected the same way? Or if he discussed backward politics of rural areas of deep Republicans states in the US?

crazy canuck

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Quote from: Tamas on March 07, 2025, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 07, 2025, 04:04:09 PMI think we're done

If he singled out Russians as problematic immigrants due to the politics in their country would you have objected the same way? Or if he discussed backward politics of rural areas of deep Republicans states in the US?

No.  I would've thought that was obvious. But he tried to make the claim that someone from the deep south of the United States was somehow inherently less valuable or worthy than someone from Ukraine then yeah, I would've fucking jumped down his throat the way

Legbiter

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 07, 2025, 10:03:14 AMLounging on street corners, drinking beer and speaking in Akkadian slang :mad:

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