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The AI dooooooom thread

Started by Hamilcar, April 06, 2023, 12:44:43 PM

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Josquius

Quote from: garbon on December 12, 2024, 06:27:22 AMI've noticed it likes wordy business speak and it likes to be redundant.

Try typing "Rephrase it so I don't sound like a prat".

But yes, its something to wrestle with. I am using it for professional trying to make myself sound good reasons... but not too much. I don't want to recompile my synergies with an extended OKR.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Josquius on December 12, 2024, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 12, 2024, 06:27:22 AMI've noticed it likes wordy business speak and it likes to be redundant.

Try typing "Rephrase it so I don't sound like a prat".

But yes, its something to wrestle with. I am using it for professional trying to make myself sound good reasons... but not too much. I don't want to recompile my synergies with an extended OKR.

Careful with that, you will start sounding like a consultant who doesn't actually know what they are talking about.




mongers

Quote from: Josquius on December 12, 2024, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 12, 2024, 06:27:22 AMI've noticed it likes wordy business speak and it likes to be redundant.

Try typing "Rephrase it so I don't sound like a prat".

But yes, its something to wrestle with. I am using it for professional trying to make myself sound good reasons... but not too much. I don't want to recompile my synergies with an extended OKR.

Do I need to pass that through chatGPI or is it it's output?
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"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

crazy canuck

A tragic story of humans relying on technology to make decisions.  A lysterisa outbreak was traced to a plant which was not inspected by health officials.  Why not? Because the algorithm did not identify the plant for inspection.  And inspectors were not permitted to inspect plants that were not identified by the algorithm.

Three people died.



mongers

Quote from: crazy canuck on December 23, 2024, 07:18:52 AMA tragic story of humans relying on technology to make decisions.  A lysterisa outbreak was traced to a plant which was not inspected by health officials.  Why not? Because the algorithm did not identify the plant for inspection.  And inspectors were not permitted to inspect plants that were not identified by the algorithm.

Three people died.




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Mind boggling laziness.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

crazy canuck

Quote from: mongers on December 23, 2024, 08:11:07 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 23, 2024, 07:18:52 AMA tragic story of humans relying on technology to make decisions.  A lysterisa outbreak was traced to a plant which was not inspected by health officials.  Why not? Because the algorithm did not identify the plant for inspection.  And inspectors were not permitted to inspect plants that were not identified by the algorithm.

Three people died.




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Mind boggling laziness.

Not so much laziness as certainty the technology should be trusted and relied upon.

Josquius

An article I just read:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/04/01/chatgpt-cheating-detection-turnitin/

Googled it up after hearing tell that apparently as lots of students are turning to AI, many teachers are turning to AI detectors to combat this. This seems to be the most famous one:

https://gptzero.me/

I tried it myself and...yep. It flags stuff I've actually written sans AI as likely being AI- include a typo or two and the odds of this drop dramatically.
They don't seem to work. So if true they're being widely adopted...that's worrying.
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Maladict

Quote from: Josquius on January 02, 2025, 04:22:44 AMAn article I just read:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/04/01/chatgpt-cheating-detection-turnitin/

Googled it up after hearing tell that apparently as lots of students are turning to AI, many teachers are turning to AI detectors to combat this. This seems to be the most famous one:

https://gptzero.me/

I tried it myself and...yep. It flags stuff I've actually written sans AI as likely being AI- include a typo or two and the odds of this drop dramatically.
They don't seem to work. So if true they're being widely adopted...that's worrying.


I always knew you weren't a real person  :P

Syt

https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/trump-announce-private-sector-ai-infrastructure-investment-cbs-reports-2025-01-21/

QuoteTrump announces private-sector $500 billion investment in AI infrastructure

Jan 21 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced a private sector investment of up to $500 billion to fund infrastructure for artificial intelligence, aiming to outpace rival nations in the business-critical technology.

Trump said that ChatGPT's creator OpenAI, SoftBank (9984.T), opens new tab and Oracle (ORCL.N), opens new tab are planning a joint venture called Stargate, which he said will build data centers and create more than 100,000 jobs in the United States.

These companies, along with other equity backers of Stargate, have committed $100 billion for immediate deployment, with the remaining investment expected to occur over the next four years.

SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and Oracle Chairman Larry Ellison joined Trump at the White House for the launch.

The first of the project's data centers are already under construction in Texas, Ellison said at the press conference. Twenty will be built, half a million square feet each, he said. The project could power AI that analyzes electronic health records and helps doctors care for their patients, Ellison said.

The executives gave Trump credit for the news. "We wouldn't have decided to do this," Son told Trump, "unless you won."

"For AGI to get built here," said Altman, referring to more powerful technology called artificial general intelligence, "we wouldn't be able to do this without you, Mr. President."

It was not immediately clear whether the announcement was an update to a previously reported venture.

In March 2024, The Information, a technology news website, reported OpenAI and Microsoft were working on plans for a $100 billion data center project that would include an artificial intelligence supercomputer also called "Stargate" set to launch in 2028.

POWER-HUNGRY DATA CENTERS

The announcement on Trump's second day in office follows the rolling back of former President Joe Biden's executive order on AI, that was intended to reduce the risks that AI poses to consumers, workers and national security.

AI requires enormous computing power, pushing demand for specialized data centers that enable tech companies to link thousands of chips together in clusters.

"They have to produce a lot of electricity, and we'll make it possible for them to get that production done very easily at their own plants if they want," Trump said.

As U.S. power consumption rises from AI data centers and the electrification of buildings and transportation, about half of the country is at increased risk of power supply shortfalls in the next decade, the North American Electric Reliability Corporation said in December.


As a candidate in 2016, Trump promised to push a $1 trillion infrastructure bill through Congress but did not. He talked about the topic often during his first term as president from 2017 to 2021, but never delivered on a large investment, and "Infrastructure Week" became a punchline.

Oracle shares were up 7% on initial report of the project earlier in the day. Nvidia (NVDA.O), opens new tab, Arm Holdings and Dell (DELL.N), opens new tab shares also rose.

Investment in AI has surged since OpenAI launched ChatGPT in 2022, as companies across sectors have sought to integrate artificial intelligence into their products and services.
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Sheilbh

He's not wrong on need to produce power for this - I think Microsoft are re-opening Three Mile Island to power their data centres.

I'd add that Musk is already saying this is basically not true which is helpful.

I'd add Starmer's launched big policy on AI - in particular (which sounds promising) one trial hub around Culham. That's already the UK centre for fusion research (part of the European project) and some other stuff. Plan is to release planning rules to build data centres, small modular reactors to power them and have it as an AI innovation hub too. But energy is seen as absolutely a key part of it.

Admittedly it'd be more promising if Starmer hadn't cancelled a few billions worth of AI projects basically as soon as he came into office because they were Sunak's :lol: :bleeding:
Let's bomb Russia!

Valmy

I don't understand how AI data centers are going to create tons of jobs.
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Syt

Quote from: Valmy on January 22, 2025, 07:00:56 AMI don't understand how AI data centers are going to create tons of jobs.

All those AI Jesuses aren't going to post themselves. Yet.
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Tamas

Quote from: Valmy on January 22, 2025, 07:00:56 AMI don't understand how AI data centers are going to create tons of jobs.

They will create shareholder value though.

garbon

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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Syt

I'm glad they're building these in areas with abundant access to water, too. :)
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.