Iran War?

[mongers]

So is it worth reading the news today or just leave it at me having seen this thread?

[Norgy]

I do wonder if this whole mess will accelerate the move towards renewables.

It probably will. Nuclear too.
The oil crises of the 70s did lead to tech that was more efficient.

That said: trees are renewable too and we might end up there as well

Yes and no. If you mean fuels made from trees, they are renewable but have very little to recommend them when it comes to clean air and water. It's basically BBQ coal.

I remember some big name conference I attended where some young, healthy leader of an organisation called ZERO back when the two degree target seemed something to strive for. "We can make anything from our forests that we make from oil". Turns out, the costs of refining pulp are a bit higher than refining oil. Norway has tried the path of renewables with huge outlays for biodiesel that would work on cars. That fuel never became competitive. A country of 7 percent arable land should not spend it on rapeseed.

Would I like some traction on a more renewable world and more energy? Yes.
I do think I have said this before, but even in a country as windy as Norway, wind power seems out in the cold. Not because the state does not want it, but because people in the localities where it might be built say no and not in very courteous terms.
Norway has a lot of hydro energy. The technology is aging poorly, but what is really needed are more power lines and more transistor stations. That is not going to happen any time soon.

Strangely enough, considering our natural gas deposits, Norway has not gone for natural gas as a load bearer for energy.

[Norgy]

So is it worth reading the news today or just leave it at me having seen this thread?

Seems Iran wants to talk.

[jimmy olsen]

And what if they want to continue fighting after you decide you're through?

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/iran-war-us-israel-trump-03-15-26?post-id=cmmrp9h4t000n3b6uar9gk79z

27 min ago
Israel to continue Iran campaign for at least three more weeks, spokesperson tells CNN
Tal Shalev
Oren Liebermann
By Tal Shalev and Oren Liebermann

The Israeli military is planning at least three more weeks of its campaign against Iran with "thousands of targets" remaining, Israel Defense Forces (IDF) military spokesperson told CNN today.

"We have thousand of targets ahead," IDF spokesperson Brig. Gen. Effie Defrin said. "We are ready, in coordination with our US allies, with plans through at least the Jewish holiday of Passover, about three weeks from now. And we have deeper plans for even three weeks beyond that."

According to the IDF, since the start of the Iran campaign on February 28, the Israeli Air Force has carried out roughly 400 waves of strikes in western and central Iran, focusing on dismantling infrastructure and targeting operatives of the fire, defense, and production units.

Israeli officials say the US and Israel have already struck thousands of targets since the war began.

Defrin told CNN that the IDF is "not working according to a stopwatch, or a timetable, but rather to achieve our goals" which are to "weaken the Iranian regime severely."

He said that the massive US-Israeli offensive against Iran pushed Hezbollah in Lebanon to join the conflict, unlike their decision to stay out during the 12-day war last summer.

"In June, they understood that it's a limited campaign in Iran, so they didn't attack. Now that it's all out, they join in," Defrin said.

Israel's military operations in Lebanon could continue beyond an end to the war in Iran, according to Israeli officials. The IDF is sending more troops to its northern border in an attempt to seize territory and push Hezbollah back.

This post has been updated with additional information.

[mongers]

So is it worth reading the news today or just leave it at me having seen this thread?

Seems Iran wants to talk.

Thanks I'll leave it at that then, off to some gardening instead.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

With the trees i actually ment that if the shit hits and then swamps the fan that'll be the tech level we'll end up at. Fire made of twigs and logs. 

[Norgy]

Don't diss it before you try. A sausage roasted in the woods over a wooden fire is very good. Well. We might have run out of sausages. Pine cone, anyone?

[viper37]

Don't diss it before you try. A sausage roasted in the woods over a wooden fire is very good. Well. We might have run out of sausages. Pine cone, anyone?

In the US and Canada, wild pigs are a plague in some parts.  We also have wild turkeys.  Some are coming here, but they are in abundance in more Sounthernly parts, around Montreal.  A city mayor launched a hunt with baseball bats. 

If we run out of sausage in one area, we can still grilled turkey ham & bacon in another  (something I discovered in Tunisia, never thought it was possible!)

[Valmy]

A city mayor launched a hunt with baseball bats. 

Oh wacking day oh wacking day