So lets game out Trump's imperial ambitions (Panama, Greenland, Canada)

[Crazy_Ivan80]

During the 1994 referendum, my grandmother was mostly afraid papists would gain power in Norway. So there is of course that. 

That strand definitely existed in the UK in the 1975 referendum, particularly (as you'd expect) in Northern Ireland. E.g. a poster from Dr Ian Paisley's church:



Ended up as an MEP - where he had to be removed from the chamber while John Paul II was giving a speech for heckling that he was the Antichrist...

Protestants 

[Duque de Bragança]

I wish they'd asked the people who agree to expand on where precisely. I get that many Hungarians basically think most of the territory of their neighbours should be Hungary. But say, Italy?

Dalmatian coast & Savoy I would imagine would be the bits Italians still think of theirs.

Istria more likely than Savoy.
Plus Nice (Nizza) and Corsica. The latter might be freely given by France, given time. 

[Duque de Bragança]

During the 1994 referendum, my grandmother was mostly afraid papists would gain power in Norway. So there is of course that. 

That strand definitely existed in the UK in the 1975 referendum, particularly (as you'd expect) in Northern Ireland. E.g. a poster from Dr Ian Paisley's church:



Ended up as an MEP - where he had to be removed from the chamber while John Paul II was giving a speech for heckling that he was the Antichrist...

Protestants 

Yeah, mixing up oecumenism with catholicism would really trigger the anti-Vatican II schismatics, not to mention the sedevacantists. 

[Duque de Bragança]

Similarly I hope that at least some of those French just want the First Empire (objectively correct borders for France ).

La France des 130 départements ? 

Marine expressed interest for Wallonia once but really right-wing/nationalist people are not that interested, given Wallonia votes PS no matter what, in general.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

I wish they'd asked the people who agree to expand on where precisely. I get that many Hungarians basically think most of the territory of their neighbours should be Hungary. But say, Italy?

Dalmatian coast & Savoy I would imagine would be the bits Italians still think of theirs.

Istria more likely than Savoy.
Plus Nice (Nizza) and Corsica. The latter might be freely given by France, given time. 

probably just in time for a new Napoleon to appear.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Similarly I hope that at least some of those French just want the First Empire (objectively correct borders for France ).

La France des 130 départements ? 

Marine expressed interest for Wallonia once but in general really right-wing/nationalist people are not that interested given Wallonia votes PS no matter what, in general.

the voted for the MR this time around (30%) but all of the walloon parties love suckling on the flemish teet. And they'd love suckling on Paris' teet equally well.
that said: regardless of they party the walloon vote for: they're broke. Utterly and completely broke.

[Valmy]

Being drafted to fight a war in Canada would result in thousands of Americans fleeing to Vietnam.

[Grey Fox]

Canada ends, Quebec petitions to become le 102e Département. Vive La France en Amérique!

[mongers]

US forces arrive in Vancouver - Most defect shortly after arrival after realizing life here is better.

 

[Duque de Bragança]

Canada ends, Quebec petitions to become le 102e Département. Vive La France en Amérique!

Make France Great again! 

[mongers]

During even the fist Trump presidency this thread topic would have seemed silly, now a lot less so. 

[mongers]

I was thinking of starting a poll on the rank and service of the first US serviceman to refuse a Trump CinC order, but given this thread topic I'll post here, so what do you think?

If Trump goes for any of these silly season daytrips I can see quite a view junior officers refusing to take part, though I'm not sure if anyone really senior would do it?

I can see the four top brass pushing back nearly all the way against such orders, but not so sure one would actually resign or refuse orders.


Though maybe if Greenland is swallowed the Coast Guard boss might stand his ground, given that service's affinity to those waters?   

[Barrister]

I was thinking of starting a poll on the rank and service of the first US serviceman to refuse a Trump CinC order, but given this thread topic I'll post here, so what do you think?

If Trump goes for any of these silly season daytrips I can see quite a view junior officers refusing to take part, though I'm not sure if anyone really senior would do it?

I see it the other way, honestly.

I could see some senior general refusing orders to invade Greenland as being unconstitutional.  But that person has earned their pension, or is close to it.

Some junior lieutenant - they have a long career ahead of them.  Lots of downside to refusing an order.

It is worth noting that the US military (and Canadian) does have a tradition of training to refuse illegal orders.

[Admiral Yi]

I could see some senior general refusing orders to invade Greenland as being unconstitutional.

I don't see the constitutional basis for doing so.  The War Powers Act has not been tested in a court, and even that only applies for deployments longer than 90 days IIRC.

[Barrister]

I could see some senior general refusing orders to invade Greenland as being unconstitutional.

I don't see the constitutional basis for doing so.  The War Powers Act has not been tested in a court, and even that only applies for deployments longer than 90 days IIRC.

No idea.  I'm not a military lawyer.

More just looking practical.  I could see someone who is more established going "I'm not invading fucking Canada" more so than a junior officer.