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Israel-Hamas War 2023

Started by Zanza, October 07, 2023, 04:56:14 AM

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Tamas

I see his death has been confirmed. Good riddance if there ever was one.

Razgovory

The Fuhrer is dead.  Perhaps they can be convinced lay down their arms.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Razgovory on October 17, 2024, 03:09:44 PMThe Fuhrer is dead.  Perhaps they can be convinced lay down their arms.

It's fuhrers all the way down.

You'd think Israel would have learned by now that they can't assassinate their way to victory.
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Barrister

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 17, 2024, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 17, 2024, 03:09:44 PMThe Fuhrer is dead.  Perhaps they can be convinced lay down their arms.

It's fuhrers all the way down.

You'd think Israel would have learned by now that they can't assassinate their way to victory.

I doubt they think they can.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 17, 2024, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 17, 2024, 03:09:44 PMThe Fuhrer is dead.  Perhaps they can be convinced lay down their arms.

It's fuhrers all the way down.

You'd think Israel would have learned by now that they can't assassinate their way to victory.

I get the impression this guy was the one most forcefully advocating for sacrificing the population for the end goal.
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Quote from: Tamas on October 17, 2024, 10:08:11 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 17, 2024, 09:32:43 AMSad day for the Hamastans of Languish--high probability Sinwar was killed.

Give it a break with accusing people here of supporting Hamas, mate. Go and watch a Trump dance video to calm down.

He heard Trump say that he was going to use the US military against "the Pelosis" of the US and all his blood rushed to his penis.  There was none left to moderate the verbal garbage he posts online.
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We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
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The Brain

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 17, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 17, 2024, 04:18:27 PMI doubt they think they can.

Then what is the strategy?

I don't know what their strategy is. I don't know what their goal is, but I slightly doubt that it is victory. Such a goal is unrealistic and therefore dangerous. Not losing is a realistic goal. Assassinations slow the enemy down, which from this perspective is enough.
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Barrister

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 17, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 17, 2024, 04:18:27 PMI doubt they think they can.

Then what is the strategy?

Well that's the thing, isn't it.

Now Bibi doesn't need to tell me what his strategy is.  But I don't get much sense there *is* a strategy.
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Iormlund

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 17, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 17, 2024, 04:18:27 PMI doubt they think they can.

Then what is the strategy?

For now, destroy their cache of weapons, blow up their tunnels, kill as many officers as possible.
Later, divide the Strip into smaller chunks and strike at everything they don't approve of. We've already seen them build corridors that point to it.

The Minsky Moment

Operations, no matter how competently conducted, are not a substitute for a coherent strategy.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Iormlund

I don't think Bibi is contemplating a return to pre-war normalcy, if that's what you mean.

Valmy

Quote from: Iormlund on October 18, 2024, 12:58:56 PMI don't think Bibi is contemplating a return to pre-war normalcy, if that's what you mean.

For sure. That would mean he would probably go on trial for corruption.
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Iormlund

Yeah.

Honestly, the way Israel was taunting the Ayatolahs before the last missile strike had me dreading Bibi wanted to escalate until he "had to" drop a nuke on Iran.

Israel seems remarkably chill on the retaliation for now though.

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Razgovory on October 17, 2024, 03:09:44 PMThe Fuhrer is dead.  Perhaps they can be convinced lay down their arms.
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