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Razgovory

#4155
May 23, 2024, 12:41:57 PM
And everyone knows that.  That's why nobody would provide peace keepers.  The Palestinians understand that violence works.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#4156
May 23, 2024, 02:09:21 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 23, 2024, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 22, 2024, 05:35:27 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 22, 2024, 06:29:35 AMTyr, Will "IDF fucking off back to their own country and letting the Palestinians get a proper working state up and running."  Actually stop Palestinian attacks?

Even if a Palestinian government took over with the best of intentions I don't think they could do this. Which is why I said back in 2006 that some kind of force needed to be deployed in Gaza to establish stability, disarm the militia, and guarantee Israeli security. To do otherwise was just to set up the Palestinians for failure and well...here we are.

They'd just end up attacking those peacekeepers too.

Sure. But it is the only way.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#4157
May 23, 2024, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 23, 2024, 12:41:57 PMAnd everyone knows that.  That's why nobody would provide peace keepers.  The Palestinians understand that violence works.

I don't think every Palestinian is a fanatical nutcase. But a sizeable group is, a group sizeable enough to always ruin any effort to end the conflict. Unfortunately, the same is true of the Israelis. That is why peace is unlikely without significant effort and sacrifice.

And if nobody wants to establish peace it is because nobody is really that interested in resolving this conflict. That has been a problem all along. Everybody can say they want peace in Palestine/Israel but nobody wants to actually do the work to establish it.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

#4158
May 23, 2024, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 23, 2024, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 23, 2024, 12:41:57 PMAnd everyone knows that.  That's why nobody would provide peace keepers.  The Palestinians understand that violence works.

I don't think every Palestinian is a fanatical nutcase. But a sizeable group is, a group sizeable enough to always ruin any effort to end the conflict. Unfortunately, the same is true of the Israelis. That is why peace is unlikely without significant effort and sacrifice.

And if nobody wants to establish peace it is because nobody is really that interested in resolving this conflict. That has been a problem all along. Everybody can say they want peace in Palestine/Israel but nobody wants to actually do the work to establish it.

Oh, plenty are interested in ending the conflict, they just don't want to end it on terms that you or I would find acceptable.  This is one of the main goals of the Anti-Zionist movement.  Make that form of peace acceptable.  Boycott, Sanction, Divest and look the other way while peace is achieved.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Tamas

#4159
May 26, 2024, 08:12:53 AM
In deep concern to Palestinian lives, Hamas is STILL rocketing Israel: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckrr0e3y29po

Savonarola

#4160
May 30, 2024, 04:07:24 PM
Gaza war protesters occupy university building

This one looks serious, they've recruited Snake Eyes:



 :ph34r:
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Savonarola

#4161
May 30, 2024, 04:13:47 PM
Ayatollah Tells American College Students They're on 'Right Side of History'

The X post referenced:  https://x.com/khamenei_ir/status/1795963798831964411


Somehow I didn't expect the dark ages to be the right side of history; but there you go.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Razgovory

#4162
May 30, 2024, 04:57:12 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on May 30, 2024, 04:13:47 PMAyatollah Tells American College Students They're on 'Right Side of History'

The X post referenced:  https://x.com/khamenei_ir/status/1795963798831964411


Somehow I didn't expect the dark ages to be the right side of history; but there you go.
Mossad agent Eli Copter needs to make another visit to Iran.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josquius

#4163
May 31, 2024, 01:53:00 AM
Quote from: Savonarola on May 30, 2024, 04:07:24 PMGaza war protesters occupy university building

This one looks serious, they've recruited Snake Eyes:



 :ph34r:

Quite amazing considering how super tory the place was back in my day.
I still remember a guy wanting to fight me because when pushed for an answer I said I guess I agree with the fox hunting ban.
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Josquius

#4164
June 03, 2024, 08:07:29 AM
A random youtube suggestion I got which was an interesting listen.
This guy is basically echoing my thoughts on the situation. But putting them in a better way of course.

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Razgovory

#4165
June 03, 2024, 02:19:14 PM
March for Israel today.  There were some counter-protesters.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Barrister

#4166
June 03, 2024, 02:48:34 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 03, 2024, 02:19:14 PMMarch for Israel today.  There were some counter-protesters.


So I'm always against "nut-picking" - taking the craziest people on the opposition and holding them up as representing the entire side opposite you.

But I'll grant you that's pretty creepy.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Razgovory

#4167
June 03, 2024, 03:03:49 PM
Those are defiantly not the craziest people in the Anti-Israel movement.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#4168
June 03, 2024, 03:35:58 PM
Quote from: Josquius on June 03, 2024, 08:07:29 AMA random youtube suggestion I got which was an interesting listen.
This guy is basically echoing my thoughts on the situation. But putting them in a better way of course.


No way I'm going to watch an hour and a half video that just repeats what viper has already been saying.

Tonitrus

#4169
June 03, 2024, 08:53:12 PM Last Edit: June 03, 2024, 08:55:02 PM by Tonitrus
Quote from: Josquius on June 03, 2024, 08:07:29 AMA random youtube suggestion I got which was an interesting listen.
This guy is basically echoing my thoughts on the situation. But putting them in a better way of course.


Meirsheimer also blames Russia's invasion of Ukraine on the West.  Probably should look elsewhere.
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