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Josquius

Quote from: Barrister on September 14, 2023, 10:42:05 AMquote author=crazy canuc

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

Please note this is in the NY Times from June 2020 - not FOX.

Like I said it's a very vague slogan.  Some wanted to reduce (but not eliminate) funding for police.  Some wanted to rebuild police forces.  And some wanted to abolish the police.  Right wingers absolutely used that one faction to attempt to tie it to the Democratic Party, but it was based in reality - some (not all) Democratic activists really wanted to abolish the police.

Some far left people wanted this - yes.
But democratic activists?
These sorts are usually pretty anti Democrats and just see centre right as on some occasions worth voting for over extreme right.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Josquius on September 14, 2023, 08:40:41 AMA quick google doesn't throw up this verbatim quote, but then I never claimed it as one. The spin the media gives to defund the police is quite clear however.

It's not clear to me, nor, apparently to many others.

Here's an out for you if you want to take it: "the media does X" can mean different things. It can mean everyone in media, it can mean the majority, it can mean a handful of people.  I don't have an example at hand, but I can imagine Tucker Carson or his ilk saying something like "BLM wants to eliminate the police."

Unfortunately that would create the problem that you are using the exact same over generalization to describe the actions of the media that you are accusing "the" media of.  But to my way of thinking this is a much more defensible thesis.

Sheilbh

Found this really interesting - I'm surprised just giving money is so much more popular than debt cancellation :huh:
Let's bomb Russia!

Admiral Yi

What was the question Shelf?

Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 14, 2023, 04:23:03 PMWhat was the question Shelf?
Support for the things on the left.
Let's bomb Russia!

Oexmelin

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 14, 2023, 04:18:40 PMFound this really interesting - I'm surprised just giving money is so much more popular than debt cancellation :huh:

It's part of the sacralisation of debt. People prefer anonymous gift giving than what has long been portrayed as a failure of honor.
Que le grand cric me croque !

Josquius

Love how the US support for an insanely high ultra conservative wealth limit is lower than everyone else's support for a more radical one.
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Admiral Yi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMm3cbiMgsE

Color me amazed.

A Spanish medical unit was secretly sent to Vietnam by Franco from 1966 to 1971.

Josquius

I'm looking at taking a holiday next spring or so.
My gf pretty weirdly wants to go towards the hot weather rather than doing the sensible thing and going away from it.
Thinking of flying to Málaga and doing a mix of some beachy relaxing days somewhere non trashy (surley there must be somewhere) and some days visiting actual interesting places nearby.
Gibraltar seems a bit far and given the hills maybe needs to wait for another time.
So. Anyone know the area at all? Granada or Cordoba? Anywhere else round there?
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celedhring

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 14, 2023, 09:05:16 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMm3cbiMgsE

Color me amazed.

A Spanish medical unit was secretly sent to Vietnam by Franco from 1966 to 1971.

Tbf, "unit" is stretching it, it was just a handful of medics.

And it was a contribution so small that it was just not widely know/forgotten, rather than a "secret" like the video tries to hype it. It even appeared on the Spanish press at the time.

Admiral Yi


Maladict

Quote from: Josquius on September 15, 2023, 01:37:07 AMI'm looking at taking a holiday next spring or so.
My gf pretty weirdly wants to go towards the hot weather rather than doing the sensible thing and going away from it.
Thinking of flying to Málaga and doing a mix of some beachy relaxing days somewhere non trashy (surley there must be somewhere) and some days visiting actual interesting places nearby.
Gibraltar seems a bit far and given the hills maybe needs to wait for another time.
So. Anyone know the area at all? Granada or Cordoba? Anywhere else round there?

Cordoba and Granada are the obvious ones you could do in a day trip. If you're using public transport do check out the timetables, when I went there was only one feasible train connection a day to Granada. Malaga was nice enough, too, in February, but I got the idea it might be less so once the warm weather tourists appear. Yes, I mean the Brits.

Ronda is nice but a bit touristy, and I thought Antequera was worth a visit too (some interesting prehistoric tombs there, too).
If you have a car exploring the limestone formations of El Torcal would be cool. Or walk the Camino del Rey, which is accessible by train as well.

Oh, and book the Alhambra well in advance. Visitor numbers are limited.

mongers

From a membership email:
QuoteMuseums Journal: The Anti-Ableism Issue

Ableism remains pervasive across the museum sector - here's how we can all take meaningful action

15 September 2023


Is it? 
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Oexmelin

On a basic level, it is, as most displays are rarely taking into account people with all sorts of disability, from people in wheelchair (i.e., the rooms may be wheelchair accessible, but the artefacts are too high), to people with poor eyesight (tiny fonts, labels poorly located / designed, light poorly calibrated), few resting spots, etc.

The biggest museums' record is spotty on that front. The smaller ones, with much less resources available, is usually and predictably worse.

Maybe the article dives into other matters, like representation of people with disability within their collection, but that's a separate matter, and wholly dependent upon the type of museum; or museums as workplaces - and in my experience, the museum world usually is welcoming to people with disability. Or at least the museums where I worked.
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garbon

I don't know how it was received but I thought it nice that the Guggenheim in Venice had tablets that let the visually impaired feel a representation of the painting.

From their website: https://www.guggenheim-venice.it/en/visit/accessibility/
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