Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Josephus]

If this happened in a Paradox game, players would scream for a patch

The player clearly reloaded as Wagner, white peaced, then switched back to Russia.

 

[Josephus]

So in short:

Prigozhin gets his merry band of mercenary rebels to launch a coup. Marches to Moscow, captures cities. Putin threatens bad shit to anyone involved. Wagner rebels decide to stop. Prigozhin gets free pass. Putin allows rebellious mercenaries to sign contracts with Russian army.

 

[Josquius]

I guess it does show to anyone who might be interested that a coup is easy

[Tamas]

I guess it does show to anyone who might be interested that a coup is easy

yeah and it definitely shows that if you are an oligarch hoping to maintain or gain some level of agency over your own faith, you need a private army.

[frunk]

I think inside 5 years Russia either completely change its leadership or stops being a single recognizable entity.

[mongers]

I think inside 5 years Russia either completely change its leadership or stops being a single recognizable entity.

Very likely 'choose', though I'd add Ukraine puppets Russia as a third option.

[Josephus]

It's just curious to know what P's endgame was. He couldn't expect to topple Putin with a 50k strong army? Was he just drunk on Friday and decided to have fun? He's pretty much out a target on his back and lost control over Wagner

[Maladict]

It's just curious to know what P's endgame was. He couldn't expect to topple Putin with a 50k strong army? Was he just drunk on Friday and decided to have fun? He's pretty much out a target on his back and lost control over Wagner

It's probably still better than the alternative.

[Legbiter]

Maybe he got wind of his imminent purge and had to act fast. Not enough forces defected to his side so he folded his hand. But the embers are still there...

Wagner is gone as an experienced fighting force at least.

This also put a dent in Putin's deluded strategy of outsuffering the West because there will be no domestic consequences for him in doing so.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

It's just curious to know what P's endgame was. He couldn't expect to topple Putin with a 50k strong army? Was he just drunk on Friday and decided to have fun? He's pretty much out a target on his back and lost control over Wagner

depends on how much Russia had in reserve and to what extent the regulars would switch sides, I guess. That and speed.

[Tamas]

Maybe he got wind of his imminent purge and had to act fast. Not enough forces defected to his side so he folded his hand. But the embers are still there...

Wagner is gone as an experienced fighting force at least.

This also put a dent in Putin's deluded strategy of outsuffering the West because there will be no domestic consequences for him in doing so.

Probably spot on.

[Tamas]

Combat footage: https://twitter.com/i/status/1672939251598589953

[mongers]

Combat footage: https://twitter.com/i/status/1672939251598589953

Nice to be able to ask: Where, Russia or Ukraine?

[Tamas]

Combat footage: https://twitter.com/i/status/1672939251598589953

Nice to be able to ask: Where, Russia or Ukraine?

Ukraine

[Hamilcar]

Cryptic message regarding Prigozhin going round on Grey Zone telegram https://twitter.com/noelreports/status/1673040407926562817?s=61&t=cBoSWWDwmbHHrcVUYZ2drw