Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Crazy_Ivan80]

So I guess what happened was that the Duke of Nova Rossiya was threatened to have their noble privileges removed, he got pissed and marched on the capital. Due to his weakness, the Tsar ended up making a deal (likely to preserve the Duke's privileges), and the conflict ended.

The thing is, Russia makes a whole lot more sense if you think of it as a medieval/feudal society.

wasn't the first Crusader Kings not originally developed by a bunch of Russians?

[Tamas]

So where is Putin then?

[Syt]

So I guess what happened was that the Duke of Nova Rossiya was threatened to have their noble privileges removed, he got pissed and marched on the capital. Due to his weakness, the Tsar ended up making a deal (likely to preserve the Duke's privileges), and the conflict ended.

The thing is, Russia makes a whole lot more sense if you think of it as a medieval/feudal society.

wasn't the first Crusader Kings not originally developed by a bunch of Russians?

It started that way, but because they didn't seem to make fast enough progress, Paradox gave them the boot and took over.

[Tamas]

The criminal case against Prigozhin will be dropped and he will move to Belarus, Kremlin says - TASS

EDIT: "Kremlin: Wagner fighters who did not take part in the "march" will sign contracts with Russia's Defence Ministry"

So he threw his soliders under the bus

[Legbiter]

The main lesson here is that if you have your own private army in Russia you can march on Moscow and challenge Putin with relative impunity.

Yeah also Wagner seized Rostov without a shot fired and sent a fighting force from there all the way to the outskirts of Moscow in about 24 hours, which is impressive. What's priggy going to do next week? 

[HVC]

The main lesson here is that if you have your own private army in Russia you can march on Moscow and challenge Putin with relative impunity.

Yeah also Wagner seized Rostov without a shot fired and sent a fighting force from there all the way to the outskirts of Moscow in about 24 hours, which is impressive. What's priggy going to do next week? 

Fall out a window in Minsk.

[Legbiter]

The criminal case against Prigozhin will be dropped and he will move to Belarus, Kremlin says - TASS

 

[HVC]

Pringles obviously never listened to Eminem

[FunkMonk]

So ultimately this seems like a case of a guy getting sick of fighting a useless war, so he marched on the capital to get a deal that sends him and his most trusted soldiers far away to Africa where they can get rich mining diamonds.

Seems like a good deal for Prig.

[HVC]

So ultimately this seems like a case of a guy getting sick of fighting a useless war, so he marched on the capital to get a deal that sends him and his most trusted soldiers far away to Africa where they can get rich mining diamonds.

Seems like a good deal for Prig.

Putin can't let him live. If he does the next coup won't fizzle out.

[FunkMonk]

Oh I agree but he probably knows that too.

Man gotta know he couldn't remove Putin and take over the country. He doesn't have the facilities. So the next best deal is legal immunity and "exile" to Belarus where he can easily march on Moscow again.

I guess this also means Pringles is the most powerful man in Russia.

[Syt]

He should stay away from open windows and ice picks.

[Jacob]

Is he going to retain control of his troops, though? Doesn't sound like it.

[Tamas]

Is he going to retain control of his troops, though? Doesn't sound like it.

It sounds like Wagner is over.

[Syt]

All things considered, the Wagner mercs seems to have been the ones with the best operational record on the Russian side. If their original leadership leaves the picture and is replaced by regular Russian commanders - that can only be good for the Ukrainians? (If his troops even decide to keep fighting)