Hungarian Politics

[The Larch]

Were Hussites Calvinists?  I thought they were pre-Calvin.

Hussites were proto-protestants. They predate Luther. And they were not from Hungary anyway.

[Tamas]

Pro tip: do not mistaken Hungarians with Czechs. Especially not in Czechia, but it is not particularly recommended in Hungary either. 

[Valmy]

IIRC Calvinism was quite strong in the Ottoman part of Hungary, and generally the Ottomans didn't seem really bothered by Protestantism of any flavor unlike in Royal Hungary.

As far as Hussites and Hungarians...the only experience the Hungarians had with Hussites was killing them in the Hussite Wars.

[Duque de Bragança]

Needs Slovaks to be added to the Czech(oslovak) mix, both ethnic Slovaks and Slovak citizens of Hungarian ethnicity AND calvinist religion, unlikely (see where Royal Hungary was situated), for fun.

[Tamas]

Rumour is spreading more and more that the US is going to sanction Hungarian individuals, probably over their link of the spynest of a "bank" Russia planted there and other countries years ago, but which has then have had to close down everywhere but Hungary.

Long fucking overdue, so I hope its true.

Meanwhile the walking turd disguising as the country's Foreign Minister just had his 4th visit to Moscow since the outbreak of the war last year, this time signing a new gas deal (who knows how much that's going to cost the country, they were already paying well above market price with the previous one) and doing something around the planned new nuclear plant. On the latter he said "despite all the EU's efforts to sabotage it" it's gonna' get built.

[The Larch]

Hey Tamas, any words on Hungary about Orban's prefered GOP candidate for the 2024 elections?

Viktor Orbán's support for Trump seems to wane as ally meets with DeSantis
Hungarian PM previously backed Trump but meetings between Katalin Novák and DeSantis camp suggest he's hedging his bets

(...)

Katalin Novák, the Hungarian president, met DeSantis last month. She also met DeSantis' wife, Casey DeSantis, and Republican mega-donor Thomas Péterffy, who has announced he would not be backing Trump's 2024 presidential candidacy. The Hungarian-born billionaire has called DeSantis his "favorite man" and donated $570,000 to his campaign in 2022, according to the campaign finance watchdog OpenSecrets.

[Tamas]

Haven't heard of that bet-hedging but I have seen Orban's pro-Trump tweets and whatnot reported (his tweets as in his staff's tweets on his account).

Makes perfect sense to hedge his bets I guess.

[Syt]

Hungarian born billionaire getting involved in US politics? I thought Republicans hate such "globalists"

[Tamas]

The US ambassador to Hungary has announced the sanctions on a press conference, as expected it concerns the Russian spy bank and its Hungarian chairman.

Also, fun fact: the ambassador is called Pressman. He replaced his predecessor a year ago, who was called Goodfriend. 

[Valmy]

Hungarian born billionaire getting involved in US politics? I thought Republicans hate such "globalists"

Well we all know only Jews are globalists.

[Syt]

My bad

[Legbiter]

Seems the morons have exhausted US patience.

A bipartisan group in Congress is drafting US sanctions that would target leading Hungarian political figures tied to the Orbán government, as the relationship between the two countries continues to spiral downwards.

The sanctions bill would name former officials and government supporters, mostly affiliated with the Fidesz party of the prime minister, Viktor Orbán.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/13/viktor-orbans-political-allies-in-hungary-in-sights-of-us-sanctions?CMP=twt_a-world_b-gdnworld

[Tamas]

Good. I saw a rumour that Hungary will quietly accept air transfers of military equipment to Ukraine through their air space which if true means they are scared and trying to patch things up without having to abandon the pro-Putin pose.

[HVC]

Hungary itself doesn't get any money from he US right? So I guess a lot of rich Hungarians have not so clean money sitting in the states.

[Zanza]

Seems the morons have exhausted US patience.

A bipartisan group in Congress is drafting US sanctions that would target leading Hungarian political figures tied to the Orbán government, as the relationship between the two countries continues to spiral downwards.

The sanctions bill would name former officials and government supporters, mostly affiliated with the Fidesz party of the prime minister, Viktor Orbán.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/13/viktor-orbans-political-allies-in-hungary-in-sights-of-us-sanctions?CMP=twt_a-world_b-gdnworld

Good. The setup of the EU was never designed for this situation, so US sanctions help, as the EU itself is bsrely able to do anything as long as Poland protects Hungary.