Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[DGuller]

I kind of wonder if the Russians have inquired about negotiating a temporary ceasefire in order to allow for the withdrawal from Kherson.

The Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson said today: "Russia is ready for negotiations with Ukraine given current realities."

I'm sure Russia has always been ready to negotiate for the right terms.  We'll know they're serious when they drop their demands from unconditional surrender of Ukraine to conditional surrender of Ukraine.

[Berkut]

Zelensky should offer terms:

The Russian military will be allowed to leave all Ukrainian territory unmolested.

[Admiral Yi]

My pet theory on the amazing Russian ambush set up in Kherson is they wanted to match the deception practiced by Ukraine when they said we will hit Kherson first then blitzed through Kharkov.

[Tamas]

My pet theory on the amazing Russian ambush set up in Kherson is they wanted to match the deception practiced by Ukraine when they said we will hit Kherson first then blitzed through Kharkov.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

[Legbiter]

The Russians in Kherson will have to leave a lot of their heavy gear behind. All the exits are under direct Ukrainian artillery observation...

[Josquius]

The Russians in Kherson will have to leave a lot of their heavy gear behind. All the exits are under direct Ukrainian artillery observation...

I'm not so confident there. Lots of footage of them stripping everything out of the city right down to theme park rides.

[Legbiter]

No rail logistics are available for the Russian on the west bank of the Dnipro Jos. Yes portable loot like washing machines or Ukrainian children can be put on a truck and driven out but heavy artillery, tanks, etc has to be concentrated along with units...

[Duque de Bragança]

I don't think either side has the capability to cross the Dnipro River against an opposing force. The Soviets barely did in 1943 - and they had 2.5 million men.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Dnieper

No Ostwall this time however. 

[celedhring]

 

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1590729203485356034

Francis Scarr
@francis_scarr
Russian TV host Andrei Norkin's realisation that his country lacks freedom of speech:

If I back the decision to withdraw from Kherson, I'm going to jail for questioning Russia's territorial integrity

And if I oppose it, I'm going to jail for discrediting the armed forces

Russia is such a farcical country, shame it can inflict so much pain to its people and to others.

[Legbiter]

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1590729203485356034

Francis Scarr
@francis_scarr
Russian TV host Andrei Norkin's realisation that his country lacks freedom of speech:

If I back the decision to withdraw from Kherson, I'm going to jail for questioning Russia's territorial integrity

And if I oppose it, I'm going to jail for discrediting the armed forces

Russia is such a farcical country, shame it can inflict so much pain to its people and to others.

Stage 4: Depression.

[Barrister]

We're getting a new round of videos of tearful Ukrainian villagers greeting AFU soldiers.

Never get tired of this genre.

[Legbiter]

Sounds like the Russians are having a really really bad time in Kherson right now...

[Legbiter]

Yep, Ukrainian soldiers are entering Kherson city right now it seems.

[mongers]

Yep, Ukrainian soldiers are entering Kherson city right now it seems.

Wow that's bloody cool, is it a significant municiple building or something in the outskirts/city suburbs?

[celedhring]

Man, that picture is giving me a yurohardon.