Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Zanza]

So far, there is no evidence for them being Russian spies and not just sympathizers. As you may have noticed there are quite a few Russophiles in Germany for whatever reasons.

Is being a Russian sympathizer grounds for losing a civil service job?  That sounds odd.  A politician losing a position I could understand.

The minister certainly has discretion to remove them from their current job if he feels they do not follow his policy. But short of a crime, they cannot lose their status or remuneration.

[The Larch]

Apparently two high ranking members of the German Economy Ministry have been temporarely relieved of their duties on suspicion of being Russian assets.

So far, there is no evidence for them being Russian spies and not just sympathizers. As you may have noticed there are quite a few Russophiles in Germany for whatever reasons.

Found an English language article on the topic:

German Economy Ministry officials flagged over possible Russia ties

The German Economy Ministry has asked the country's domestic intelligence agency BfV to look into two senior ministry officials over concerns about their possible ties to Russia, Die Zeit weekly reported on Wednesday.

Die Zeit, citing its own research, said Economy Ministry officials had approached the BfV in the spring about the officials' allegedly pro-Russian stance on issues such as utility Uniper's bailout or state intervention in Gazprom Germania.

Die Zeit did not name the officials.

The BfV looked into the officials' backgrounds, personal relations and travel records, and found no solid evidence so far of spying or corruption, Die Zeit reported.

The Economy Ministry, which said it does not comment on specific cases, said it has maintained close contact with the BfV since the start of the legislative period as the Ministry's work is under particular scrutiny due to its responsibility for energy security.

"In addition, the new administration has completely overhauled the previous government's Russia-friendly policy," an Economy Ministry spokesperson said.

"All efforts of the new administration are aimed at reducing dependence on Russian gas; this policy is rigorously implemented," the spokesperson said.

[Razgovory]

So far, there is no evidence for them being Russian spies and not just sympathizers. As you may have noticed there are quite a few Russophiles in Germany for whatever reasons.

Is being a Russian sympathizer grounds for losing a civil service job?  That sounds odd.  A politician losing a position I could understand.

We did it back in the 1950's.

[The Brain]

If they are Russian sympathizers maybe they can't pass security checks necessary for their jobs. You don't have to do anything illegal, or even act in any way blameworthy, to be a security risk.

[The Larch]

Never trust a Russian window...

The chairman of the board of Lukoil, Russia's biggest privately held oil producer and one of the few Russian companies to criticize the invasion of Ukraine, has died after falling out of a hospital window, Interfax reports

[The Brain]

Guess that's why they call it window pane.

[Tamas]

Never trust a Russian window...

The chairman of the board of Lukoil, Russia's biggest privately held oil producer and one of the few Russian companies to criticize the invasion of Ukraine, has died after falling out of a hospital window, Interfax reports

Wow they are really taking the piss with these aren't they, at this stage they could might as well execute them on the street, the message couldn't be clearer.

[Josquius]

They keep going with the window pushes too. It's like a calling card.

[Sheilbh]

I suppose they need to communicate the risk to others in the Russian elite. If they were genuinely plausible that wouldn't work.

[mongers]

I suppose they need to communicate the risk to others in the Russian elite. If they were genuinely plausible that wouldn't work.

'If you open a window to the wider world and voice a protest, shortly after you'll end up 'falling' to earth.'

[Josquius]

If I were a Russian billionaire I'd order the world's biggest bungalow be built.

[Sheilbh]

It sort of explains the absolutely crazy Russian conspiracy theories like most of history was invented.

If loads of your generals and senior businessmen and critics of the state just keep getting knocked off, plus all the other shady stuff with the state it must be difficult to be a normal level conspiracy theorist.

[crazy canuck]

They keep going with the window pushes too. It's like a calling card.

In fairness, they seem to be trying to move away from poisoning-too much chance of recovery.

[mongers]

They keep going with the window pushes too. It's like a calling card.

In fairness, they seem to be trying to move away from poisoning-too much chance of recovery.

Presumably if one of these oligarchs did survive a fall from a window, they'd somehow manage to crawl back up the stairs and throw themselves out again?

[crazy canuck]

They keep going with the window pushes too. It's like a calling card.

In fairness, they seem to be trying to move away from poisoning-too much chance of recovery.

Presumably if one of these oligarchs did survive a fall from a window, they'd somehow manage to crawl back up the stairs and throw themselves out again?