Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Zanza]

He sounds old. Maybe he should just retire and not hold public speeches anymore?

[OttoVonBismarck]

He is retired.

[Habbaku]

He sounds old. Maybe he should just retire and not hold public speeches anymore?

Did you watch the clip? He even jokes about it: "I'm 75."

[Syt]

Same age as Trump.

[Eddie Teach]

And younger than our current President. 

[ulmont]

Mother of all Freudian slips.

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1527092111195226114

Former President George W. Bush: "The decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq. I mean of Ukraine."

...and misquotes the clip, which clearly says "the Ukraine" and follows up with "...Iraq too.  Anyway,"

[celedhring]

What a difference 3 months make 



(Personally I think Russia will eventually dig in and this will still be a long and ugly fight, but nonetheless things have gone way better than I expected)

[Josquius]

The news today was covering the troubles of Ukraine in exporting its grain and the food shortages expected from this.

Got me thinking just what Egypt and Co are doing about the war. Strikes me if your people are at risk of starvation then getting involved would be smart, as crazy an involvement as that would be.

[Sheilbh]

Yeah seeing more and more articles talking/thinking about the possibility or need to break the Black Sea blockade.

Economist lead story on food supplies is particularly grim - especially as India has stopped grain exports given their own situation (a bit of a trend that, same with the vaccine).

[mongers]

I've read there's up to 22 million tonnes of grains in Ukrainian silos, Putin's blockade of Ukraine may be his worst crime, starving millions of the world's poorest people.
Some suggestions that Putin wants some sanctions on Russia ended before he lifts the blockade.

I'd be in favour of NATO escorted convoys of 'neutral' cargo ships being sent to Odessa to get some of that valuable commodity out of Putin's grip; an escalation yes, but Russia really afford to challenge NATO inthe Black sea or anywhere at the moment/

[Zoupa]

Just send Ukraine some Harpoons and let them sink the Black Sea fleet. Putin only seems to be playing poker, bluffing that the west won't escalate. Fuck him.

[Legbiter]

(Personally I think Russia will eventually dig in and this will still be a long and ugly fight, but nonetheless things have gone way better than I expected)

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Yeah, the analysts who I consider credible are saying the most likely scenario is that the Russians will push for a little bit and get minor gains while the Ukrainians continue constituting their forces for the counter-push. Then in the summer there'll be grinding attritional warfare where the Ukrainians have the advantage, until August-September where Ukraine finally gets the upper hand.

Obviously this is contingent on all kinds of things, there's plenty of uncertainty in war, and so on... but that's about the shape of it.

[FunkMonk]

World War 1 in the 21st century?

[Jacob]

World War 1 in the 21st century?

I'm no doctrine master by any stretch of the imagination, but I believe don't "attritional warfare" necessarily equates to WWI.