Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Berkut]

I cannot think of a single example in this thread of anyone referring to any specific Russian as an orc, but rather referring to them all as orcs.

You seem to have this exactly turned around.

As I said before, I'm perfectly happy dehumanizing the people who raped women and shot ziptied civilians, and bombed hospitals and train stations.

That is not an example of any specific Russian, but rather all of them, since you haven't identified even one.

[Berkut]

Question for those triggered by orcs: does that mean we need to stop calling people trolls too? 

I think we can safely call YOU a troll!

Triggered, please. Yes, you are just so tough and manly Yi, able to call those nasty Russians mean names! 

[Josquius]

Early days but seems to be going less great with the Russians having learned their lessons and not charging forward as quick as they can.

[Barrister]

Early days but seems to be going less great with the Russians having learned their lessons and not charging forward as quick as they can.

Well it would be hard for the Russians to do worse than their initial invasion.

But the Ukrainians have been preparing for this assault for awhile also.  Let's see how they do.

[Josephus]

Yeah, seems like the Russkies are using the strategy of blast everything first, advance later.

[Josquius]

Do we call them the Imperial guard now?

[Jacob]

Do we call them the Imperial guard now?

No. We try not to conflate actual war with internet memes and nerd-IP.

[crazy canuck]

On the great Orcs debate - perhaps in another thread - I pointed out that there is a long tradition in the countries bordering the USSR and now Russia to call them Orcs.  In Helsinki there used to be (circa 1989) a summer tradition of  holding a Lord of the Rings outside play.  It was very popular because the Orcs were generally understood to be the Russians.  It was a safe way of poking fun at the bear without the bear necessarily realizing what you were doing.

[Admiral Yi]

That is not an example of any specific Russian, but rather all of them, since you haven't identified even one.

If you think all Russians have done the things I described, we will just have to disagree.

[Berkut]

That is not an example of any specific Russian, but rather all of them, since you haven't identified even one.

If you think all Russians have done the things I described, we will just have to disagree.

More trolling.

[Admiral Yi]

You win.

[Berkut]

That's the problem - you think this is a contest, rather then a discussion.

[Admiral Yi]

It stopped being a discussion when you refused to acknowledge I wasn't calling all Russians orcs.

[grumbler]

It stopped being a discussion when you refused to acknowledge I wasn't calling all Russians orcs.

When were you calling specific Russians "orcs?" And why were you doing it, when actually descriptive names in English already existed?

I can understand the Ukrainians using the term (much as the US soldiers used "gooks" and "slopes" in the Vietnam War) because people under stress tend to ignore all of the logical distinctions that keep them from actually understanding the world, but why would anyone think that this was a good idea?  Why do you think that it is a good idea?

[Zanza]

This is a really poor show by the German government, specifically chancellor Scholz.  There is no obvious, publicly known domestic reason not to do more.